Redskins trade for Alex Smith


FrenchSkin
01-31-2018, 05:09 PM
I'll watch film of Alex Smith, before that, here are stats of Smith and Cousins when facing the same defenses, in 2017:

-Against the Eagles: Smith 21/28, 251yards, 1 TD (21 rush yards) sacked 4 times / Cousins 23/40 240 yards, 1 TD 1 INT (30 rush yards) sacked 4 times and Cousins 30/40 303y 3 TDs 1 INT (18ry) 4sacks

-Against the Chargers: Smith 16/21 155y 2TDs (9ry) 5sacks and Smith 23/30 231y 2 TDs (13ry) 1sack / Cousins 15/27 151y 1TD 1INT (8ry) 2sacks

-Against the Raiders: Smith 25/32 342y 3TDs (0ry) 1sack and Smith 20/34 268y 0TD 1INT (24ry) 4 sacks / Cousins 25/30 365y 3TDs (2ry) 1sack

-Against the Broncos: Smith 14/31 202 1TD (33ry) 1sack / Cousins 19/37 299y 3TDs 1INT (8ry) 0sack

-Against the Cowboys: Smith 25/34 263y 2TDs 1INT (19ry) 2sacks / Cousins 26/39 263y 1TD 1INT (0ry) 4sacks and Cousins 26/37 251y 2TDs 2INTs (6ry) 4sacks

-Against the Giants: Smith 27/40 230y 0TD 2INTs (27ry) 1sack / Cousins 19/31 242y 2TDs 1INT (4ry) 6sacks and Cousins 20/37 158y 0TD 3INTs (12ry) 3sacks



So, on common opponents this season:

Smith averaged 242,75 yards - 1,38 TDs - 0,5 INTs - 2,25 sacks

Cousins averaged 252,44 yards - 1,77 TDs - 1,22 INTs - 3,11 sacks



I'm not trying to read too much out of these, and am well aware that football is the ultimate team sport, QB is the ultimate dependable position, and Smith had a running game that Cousins didn't have.

But, I do think these numbers show you Smith is far from being a dramatic downgrade from Kirk, and he sure seems to be throwing less INTs than Kirk.

I still think Cousins can be a better QB considering what he's been capable to do under pressure behind a battered OL.

I also think we got the best replacement available.

skinsfaninok
01-31-2018, 05:13 PM
I'll watch film of Alex Smith, before that, here are stats of Smith and Cousins when facing the same defenses, in 2017:

-Against the Eagles: Smith 21/28, 251yards, 1 TD (21 rush yards) sacked 4 times / Cousins 23/40 240 yards, 1 TD 1 INT (30 rush yards) sacked 4 times and Cousins 30/40 303y 3 TDs 1 INT (18ry) 4sacks

-Against the Chargers: Smith 16/21 155y 2TDs (9ry) 5sacks and Smith 23/30 231y 2 TDs (13ry) 1sack / Cousins 15/27 151y 1TD 1INT (8ry) 2sacks

-Against the Raiders: Smith 25/32 342y 3TDs (0ry) 1sack and Smith 20/34 268y 0TD 1INT (24ry) 4 sacks / Cousins 25/30 365y 3TDs (2ry) 1sack

-Against the Broncos: Smith 14/31 202 1TD (33ry) 1sack / Cousins 19/37 299y 3TDs 1INT (8ry) 0sack

-Against the Cowboys: Smith 25/34 263y 2TDs 1INT (19ry) 2sacks / Cousins 26/39 263y 1TD 1INT (0ry) 4sacks and Cousins 26/37 251y 2TDs 2INTs (6ry) 4sacks

-Against the Giants: Smith 27/40 230y 0TD 2INTs (27ry) 1sack / Cousins 19/31 242y 2TDs 1INT (4ry) 6sacks and Cousins 20/37 158y 0TD 3INTs (12ry) 3sacks



So, on common opponents this season:

Smith averaged 242,75 yards - 1,38 TDs - 0,5 INTs - 2,25 sacks

Cousins averaged 252,44 yards - 1,77 TDs - 1,22 INTs - 3,11 sacks



I'm not trying to read too much out of these, and am well aware that football is the ultimate team sport, QB is the ultimate dependable position, and Smith had a running game that Cousins didn't have.

But, I do think these numbers show you Smith is far from being a dramatic downgrade from Kirk, and he sure seems to be throwing less INTs than Kirk.

I still think Cousins can be a better QB considering what he's been capable to do under pressure behind a battered OL.

I also think we got the best replacement available.



They played us and Smith shredded us on the ground and air.

skinsfaninok
01-31-2018, 05:27 PM
Browns offered a second, but not a big contract for Alex Smith – ProFootballTalk (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2018/01/31/browns-offered-a-second-but-not-a-big-contract-for-alex-smith/)

sandtrapjack
01-31-2018, 05:27 PM
seems like you and I are the only ones not mad about this move, I actually LOVE it

I still say this was the best available option left for Washington.

However, that being said, nothing can diminish the fact that the front office is replacing a 29-year old starting QB with a career passer rating of 93.7 with a 33-year old QB with a career passer rating of 87.4. They surrendered a very talented CB and a 3rd round pick as well. All it did for the Chiefs was give them 17 million more in cap room and make their defense better.

The irony of the deal is they are paying the 33-year old today, what they could have signed the 29-year old for 2 years ago.

Chief X_Phackter
01-31-2018, 05:32 PM
I'm with you guys.

Well, let's put it this way:

1) I love having Alex Smith here. Solid starter that can take us all the way with the team around him. Or at the very least win games while we develop a prospect (which we could draft this year, next year or the year after that).


2) But I do think the Chiefs "won" that trade, if I'm a Chiefs fan I'm thinking:
-We have our QB of the future
-We freed 17M in cap room, and Smith was only here for one more year anyway
-We got a rising young corner... And a 3rd, we'll take that!


So, not sure I LOVE the trade, but I do love that we solved our QB situation at a reasonable price and can move on!

Chiefs were going to "win" that trade no matter who the trading partner was. They were in the driver's seat with reportedly six teams interested. We showed that we wanted him more, and for longer than the other teams. I'm good with that considering the alternatives.

Chico23231
01-31-2018, 05:53 PM
I’m over it...welcome Alex smith. Now Bruce work your magic and trade Cousins

MTK
01-31-2018, 05:53 PM
Nobody cares about winning trades. It’s always about wins on the field. It’s a move that could work out well for both sides.

Schneed10
01-31-2018, 05:54 PM
I’m over it...welcome Alex smith. Now Bruce work your magic and trade Cousins

Thank God. Your incessant whining was getting old.

Schneed10
01-31-2018, 05:55 PM
Bottom line: we had a QB we could win with, not because of. He wasn't going to stay for the long haul. And now we have a QB we can win with, not because of, and he's here for the long haul and we've got some cap space to continue building up the defense.

We're not worse than we were, and we've got the resources to get better.

diehardskin2982
01-31-2018, 05:59 PM
Both teams won the trade. KC saves 17mm and the Redskins save 11+ mm on what it would have taken to tag or keep Cousins. Fuller is the cost of doing business to get a starting QB. We get a compensatory pick in the third round for Cousins next year. All other vet QB's on the market aren't as good as these two players.

Anyone who is mad is not realistic about the situation. Kirk did not want to stay here. He had them by the balls and this was their way out.

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