Giantone
01-31-2018, 10:50 AM
Without going into the article point by point, when the fact checker says true but needs context that is the pure definition of media bias. Is the statement true, yes. You then want to write opeds on why the true statement doesnt jive with your world view that is also fine. But saying the economy gained x jobs doesnt need media spin in a "fact check" article, it's either true or false.
So the explanation of each answer with facts that are either true or not is not good for you,you just want yes or no answers.Saying the economy gained x jobs could be a yes or no answer if credit for said gain was given to whom ever earned it,it should be explained for those whom might not understand the system being used to come up with that "Yes or No' answer.
Giantone
01-31-2018, 10:53 AM
G1, context only matters if it supports your argument. If it doesn't, you ignore it and just focus on the "true" portion.
Also, as everybody knows the day a President wins the election is the day you start giving him credit for all changes in the economy.
My Bad I apologize.I was wondering becuase it wasn't done like that when President Obama was in Office.
Chico23231
01-31-2018, 11:40 AM
He should have Stormy Daniels sitting in his lap as he wolfs down a happy meal in his tighty whities
https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/stormy-daniels-won-t-confirm-denying-trump-affair-065018686.html
Stormy Daniels Won’t Confirm Denying Trump Affair in Confusing Talk With Kimmel
whole lotta nothing.
But she is still smoking...I just might hit it. maybe
Chico23231
01-31-2018, 11:46 AM
Hey why is my paycheck higher today? #TrumpTrumpTrump
CRedskinsRule
01-31-2018, 12:42 PM
So the explanation of each answer with facts that are either true or not is not good for you,you just want yes or no answers.Saying the economy gained x jobs could be a yes or no answer if credit for said gain was given to whom ever earned it,it should be explained for those whom might not understand the system being used to come up with that "Yes or No' answer.
I am saying the fact check should be just that "just the facts, ma'am "
But we have a dumb electorate who craves being fed information in a fact check that belongs in the opinion portion. Are we going to fact check the fact checkers?
And yes on the economy for example a lot of the cause for the growth is opinion based. No Trump doesn't get all the credit and Obama deserves credit leaving office with a stable economy, but there is a whole lot more to it then 1 or two paragraphs in a fact check article.
A fact check is just about bringing a little reality to the situation, because we certainly have a President who lives in his own reality. And yes I know all Presidents tend to stretch the truth and bend figures to suit their agenda. I honestly don't see the big deal about offering context. There are rarely black and white answers to complex issues.
TheMalcolmConnection
01-31-2018, 01:25 PM
Hey why is my paycheck higher today? #TrumpTrumpTrump
I'll ride that wave and hopefully it'll get restructured again before we start paying in. We take zero deductions and our tax person said that while we'll get more in our monthly take-home, we'll maybe start having to pay in. Like WTF?! We used to get $3500 per return (and yes, I know you're not supposed to give the government a tax-free loan).
CRedskinsRule
01-31-2018, 05:35 PM
2018 State of the Union - Fact Check (https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/30/us/politics/fact-check-sotu.html)
one other comment on this, I didn't even see that there was only one fact check of the democratic response, I'm assuming that means from the NYTimes viewpoint, Mr Kennedy didn't say anything that would warrant serious consideration. Nice.
Giantone
01-31-2018, 07:39 PM
one other comment on this, I didn't even see that there was only one fact check of the democratic response, I'm assuming that means from the NYTimes viewpoint, Mr Kennedy didn't say anything that would warrant serious consideration. Nice.
or.....Mr Kennedy was more truthful with his statements.