State of the Union tonight

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CRedskinsRule
01-30-2018, 09:43 PM
Pelosi looks like she is chewing bullets.

MTK
01-31-2018, 08:09 AM
2018 State of the Union - Fact Check (https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/30/us/politics/fact-check-sotu.html)

CRedskinsRule
01-31-2018, 08:38 AM
2018 State of the Union - Fact Check (https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/30/us/politics/fact-check-sotu.html)I love the "needs context" tags. Lol

Giantone
01-31-2018, 09:04 AM
I love the "needs context" tags. Lol

So ,knowing you are a trump supporter where or how is the NYT wrong with any or all of their evaluations?

Chico23231
01-31-2018, 09:13 AM
I love the "needs context" tags. Lol

that's rich coming from the NY Times

mooby
01-31-2018, 09:23 AM
G1, context only matters if it supports your argument. If it doesn't, you ignore it and just focus on the "true" portion.

Also, as everybody knows the day a President wins the election is the day you start giving him credit for all changes in the economy.

TheMalcolmConnection
01-31-2018, 09:30 AM
G1, context only matters if it supports your argument. If it doesn't, you ignore it and just focus on the "true" portion.

Also, as everybody knows the day a President wins the election is the day you start giving him credit for all changes in the economy.

This is what kills me. So many things take years upon years to develop. I get annoyed when ANY sitting president starts taking credit. Trump constantly has his own wang in his mouth over any and all positive changes in the country.

Anything negative? Obama's fault!

CRedskinsRule
01-31-2018, 09:45 AM
So ,knowing you are a trump supporter where or how is the NYT wrong with any or all of their evaluations?Without going into the article point by point, when the fact checker says true but needs context that is the pure definition of media bias. Is the statement true, yes. You then want to write opeds on why the true statement doesnt jive with your world view that is also fine. But saying the economy gained x jobs doesnt need media spin in a "fact check" article, it's either true or false.

MTK
01-31-2018, 09:47 AM
Hey I thought unemployment was more like 30 or 40%?? What happened to that? Oh now that it's on his watch the numbers are legit. Right.

CRedskinsRule
01-31-2018, 09:51 AM
G1, context only matters if it supports your argument. If it doesn't, you ignore it and just focus on the "true" portion.

Also, as everybody knows the day a President wins the election is the day you start giving him credit for all changes in the economy.Context is important, and there are these things called opeds or opinion articles where context and opinion can and should be written.

I don't have a problem with saying a statement is true, or false, or mostly true or mostly false, or even saying it's an exaggeration or a lie. Those all are evaluated statements of objective truths. But when you say it's true but let me explain why it isn't, then you are adding opinion and point of view thoughts that are better off in other articles, in my opinion. I would say the same when fact checking Pres. Obama's speeches

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