Government shutdown 2018

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mooby
01-30-2018, 06:18 PM
Its amazing how now some want to pin the Trump administration as somehow responsible for the Russian attempts of influence of the elections and the DNC hacking...this is the responsibility of the Obama Administration, the Obama State Department and the Obama intelligence agencies. All failed. So own it.


More evidence of Trump completely bashing any narrative of soften of policy towards Russian influence:

Putin: US took 'hostile step' in publishing Russia list - ABC News (http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory/state-department-russia-sanctions-time-52694674)

Putin: US took 'hostile step' in publishing Russia list.

That's fine, we can blame it on Obama if you want to feel better. How does that solve the problem?

S/N how does Trump not enforcing sanctions after Congress voted 98-2 to sanction Russia help as well? The one thing we managed to make Congress agree upon and yet it still won't go into action lol.

CRedskinsRule
01-30-2018, 06:19 PM
It's a ridiculous notion to think that somehow Russia has been let off the hook by Pres. Trump, any more than when HC called for a reset

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fc/Hillary_Clinton_and_Sergei_Lavrov_with_reset_butto n.jpg/220px-Hillary_Clinton_and_Sergei_Lavrov_with_reset_butto n.jpg

or Pres. Obama told them off camera that he would be in a better position to help after the election.

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It's always a fine line with Russia, you want them to be good actors, and you offer carrots for that behaviour, but you also have to call them out when they do stupid shit. So far, in my opinion, he has not acted way out of line of past state actors.

Giantone
01-31-2018, 10:56 AM
None of that answers' Mooby's question though.

"That's fine, we can blame it on Obama if you want to feel better. How does that solve the problem?

S/N how does Trump not enforcing sanctions after Congress voted 98-2 to sanction Russia help as well? The one thing we managed to make Congress agree upon and yet it still won't go into action lol."

CRedskinsRule
01-31-2018, 02:47 PM
None of that answers' Mooby's question though.

"That's fine, we can blame it on Obama if you want to feel better. How does that solve the problem?

S/N how does Trump not enforcing sanctions after Congress voted 98-2 to sanction Russia help as well? The one thing we managed to make Congress agree upon and yet it still won't go into action lol."

my post was after as Mooby's (fact check: True but needs context, his was at 618, and mine was at 619, likely we were both typing our responses at the same time and I didn't see his before I posted mine)

Nothing solves it now. Except getting politics out of the upper echelons of our legal system and letting the FBI and DOJ focus on protecting the country not their preferred politicians.

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