The FINAL Kirk Cousins Saga thread. 5.0

I would assume he is referring to this quote:



Taken from Link (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/dc-sports-bog/wp/2018/01/05/id-be-foolish-to-say-i-dont-want-to-be-here-highlights-from-kirk-cousinss-fan-event/?utm_term=.18689750c8ff)

I still think this tag and trade talk is a pipe dream. I would absolutely love to be wrong, and love to get something for him. I do not see it happening because I simply don't think the market is there for a tag and trade (for a number of reasons).

I think the reason Cousins wants out is probably a combination of everything. The F/O has had their issues, surely, but I think there is also merit to him wanting to choose his own destiny. He wants to find his own path, and likely wants to move on.

We will find out soon enough, and thankfully will be able to focus our attention elsewhere (although I shudder to imagine the obsessive comparative threads with Cousins vs. his replacement. It will be hell).

Classy statement by Kirk. Even after being tagged twice and still being low-balled by Allen and Snyder, Cousins stays positive.

The Skins FO made a business decision to go low on negotiating with Cousins and agent. After they rebuffed Kirk's offer of $20 mil per year (which sure looks cheap now), they have only themselves to blame for the current situation. Cousins bet on himself, and won.

What bugs me the most about who succeeds Kirk here: Say he does as well as Cousins. Will the FO learn from it's mistakes now? Will the FO actually try to keep a QB we draft and develop here, when the rookie contract is over? And give our coaches the chance to build around him, signing the QB to a LTD? Or will it be the same crap as this current situation all over again?

I think the reason Cousins wants out is probably a combination of everything. The F/O has had their issues, surely, but I think there is also merit to him wanting to choose his own destiny. He wants to find his own path, and likely wants to move on.



I think this says it all

Q: Do you feel good about Bruce Allen + Dan Snyder being your bosses?

Cousins: "It all comes down to winning. We have to win. If we win, everybody will feel good." #Redskins


LOL. That answer was text book political sidestep.

Can you really blame him for not wanting to be here? I know most people will point out the money we have gave him so far. That's good, but what any player wants is the long-term security. Hell any person really wants long-term security. Whatever job that you do, do you want to do it year to year, or would you hope your company wants you around long-term?



If reports are accurate, Dan / Allen didn't express any willingness to keep Cousins until year 3 of him starting. Remember after the Baltimore game that Cousins won with RG3 being hurt, Dan allegedly walked right by Cousins in the locker room, said nothing to him, and went over to RG3. How would that make you feel?



I think there's next to no chance we successfully draft / develop a QB. The argument could be made that we did that with Cousins, and ultimately failed when it came time to give him NFL starting QB money. Trading up for Picks to get a QB - those picks would be better used elsewhere on our team.



I agree with everything you said... I’m just tired of the whole situation. I’m mentally preparing myself for his departure.

I also believe there is no doubt that this team will screw up and draft the wrong quarterback and the cycle will continue.


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If the 49ers sign Garoppolo to a record deal before Kirk inks a deal I wonder if that will affect what Kirk is paid? Jimmy is 7-0 as a starter, even though a small sample, he won 5 straight with the previously 1-10 49ers, picking up their offense in mid season.

You can bet Kirk’s camp will watching Jimmy G’s situation closely. I don’t think he’s got the resume to demand top money but I can see him getting in the range of $20M per year.

You can bet Kirk’s camp will watching Jimmy G’s situation closely. I don’t think he’s got the resume to demand top money but I can see him getting in the range of $20M per year.

I will take the over on that $20 mil, SF has a huge amount of cap space and QB salaries have been escalating like crazy. I will venture a guess he gets in the neighborhood of $25 mil.

You can bet Kirk’s camp will watching Jimmy G’s situation closely. I don’t think he’s got the resume to demand top money but I can see him getting in the range of $20M per year.

The latest rumor is the Broncos will be cutting Talib and possibly other starters to make room for Kirk.

Broncos may release, not trade, Aqib Talib – ProFootballTalk (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2018/01/29/broncos-may-release-not-trade-aqib-talib/)

I will take the over on that $20 mil, SF has a huge amount of cap space and QB salaries have been escalating like crazy. I will venture a guess he gets in the neighborhood of $25 mil.


So Derek Carr/ Andrew Luck money after 7 games? I’ll be impressed if they pull that off.

So Derek Carr/ Andrew Luck money after 7 games? I’ll be impressed if they pull that off.

I think SF will learn from how we handled Kirk. They should know that the Jimmy G camp will expect a strong offer or will wait to be franchised.

Once franchised, the starting point for negotiations will be $20M per year anyway. SF would be smart to come with a strong offer like $21M or $22M per season to avoid going down the same road that Allen took us with Kirk.

Once you slap the tag on the player has all the leverage. We learned that the hard way.

I think SF will learn from how we handled Kirk. They should know that the Jimmy G camp will expect a strong offer or will wait to be franchised.



Once franchised, the starting point for negotiations will be $20M per year anyway. SF would be smart to come with a strong offer like $21M or $22M per season to avoid going down the same road that Allen took us with Kirk.



Once you slap the tag on the player has all the leverage. We learned that the hard way.


I totally agree. I don’t see him getting 25 a year but we’ll see.