The FINAL Kirk Cousins Saga thread. 5.0

I have been in favor of transition tag, but now I'm thinking Franchising may actually be a no brainer.

Here's the thing. There's already been a lot of interest in Kirk connected to other teams, especially Denver and Cleveland, so you knows there are places that will pay him.

If they go into a tag and trade situation willing to take less than they hope to if it comes down to it, than I think the risk of another year on the tag is very small.

Someone will at least give up their 3rd or even their 4th for Cousins, right? So why let him walk when the absolute best you can get is a next year's third?

If you Franchise him, even if you could get absolutely nothing but a ham sandwich, if you think it's right for the team, you could always let him go to any team that wants him at that point, or maybe he'd see the lack of interest and finally sign long term.

The potential for teams to have to out bid each other is too great not try isn't it?

Essentially, they'd be betting a third rounder next year for a potential for a first this year.

For this not to work out there's only a few possibilities:

1. No one really wants Cousins.

2. Cousins refuses to consider offers from other teams so that he can play on the tag again.

3. Cousins doesn't like the options he has and decides to play on the Tag and see what his options are next year.

4. The skins somehow piss everyone off in a creative way that the make the other teams decide that the best revenge is to refuse to take Cousins out of spite.

I wouldn't put #4 past them, but really how likely do you think any of the scenarios are? Or am I not considering some other factor?

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I really want a HISHE episode of the KC contract negotiations when this is all done :)

HISHE would be awesome. Ever see bangcartoons on bangcartoonradiohour.com? They would be great, too.

HISHE would be awesome. Ever see bangcartoons on bangcartoonradiohour.com? They would be great, too.Yeah. They used to get posted on here and were great!

But we could franchise him and let him negotiate a deal with another team to receive compensation.

I don't think this is out of the question, there are other teams who would gladly guarantee 75-90 million for Cousins.

Why would KC want his new team to give up valuable picks for him?
If KC is tagged, he will play out the year and become a true unrestricted FA next year which is what he wants.
I don’t necessarily think he wants to leave but he does want the most money he can get and being and UFA is the best way to go about that.
34M next season is not a deterrent.

Why would KC want his new team to give up valuable picks for him?
If KC is tagged, he will play out the year and become a true unrestricted FA next year which is what he wants.
I don’t necessarily think he wants to leave but he does want the most money he can get and being and UFA is the best way to go about that.
34M next season is not a deterrent. Kirk has said for two years now that he's never gotten to pick his team in the NFL and that he would like to test the market. In the past couple of years, the skins tagged him exclusively and did not give him permission to seek offers from other teams.

In the tag and trade scenario, he'd be given that opportunity finally. Not entertaining offers would be in total contradiction to what he's been saying.

If Kirk did this he'd be a dick, how the hell would he spin this in popular opinion? Wouldn't other teams see this and think twice about signing him?

So he either finds the right team and we work out the best deal we can, he doesn't like the other options and decides to finally negotiate a long term, or be a dick and see how it plays out.

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Guess I’ll ask again, when was the last sign and trade in the NFL let alone a tag and trade? We’re talking about uncharted waters and people are saying it’s highly likely?? Based on what?

Patriots franchised and traded Cassel in 09. It's not common, but not uncharted.

I can understand the doubt that the Skins could pull off something because the Patriots have, but nevertheless it has been done.

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You make it sound like there would only be one rebuilding season by letting KC go. This team has been rebuilding since Y2K but the past 2 season it seems like the end of the rebuild is finally in sight. Letting KC go pushes the reset button on this team and God only knows how many years it takes to get back to where they are now.

Agreed. But still, anything but another tag season. That'd give him even more leverage and we'd be in the same situation next year, but having spent 34 M more for a player we're not sure will stay here...

Why would KC want his new team to give up valuable picks for him?
If KC is tagged, he will play out the year and become a true unrestricted FA next year which is what he wants.
I don’t necessarily think he wants to leave but he does want the most money he can get and being and UFA is the best way to go about that.
34M next season is not a deterrent.

Compensation is out of his hands...he will not turn down free agency bc of it.

Like I said before, the Skins need to handle this the right way.

Why would KC want his new team to give up valuable picks for him?
If KC is tagged, he will play out the year and become a true unrestricted FA next year which is what he wants.
I don’t necessarily think he wants to leave but he does want the most money he can get and being and UFA is the best way to go about that.
34M next season is not a deterrent.

This is perhaps the best argument against the Skins tagging him again. This year, I think the Skins would be well-served by either signing Kirk to a LTD or moving on from him.

Another tag is just delaying the inevitable and it’s hard to imagine another team giving up picks in addition to signing him to a monster deal. It’s not like he’s Aaron Rodgers or something. Worst case he walks and we get a compensatory pick, we draft or trade for another QB. The world won’t end if he’s not our starter next season.