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KI Skins Fan 01-23-2018, 02:35 PM Was going to say the same thing but Bortles didnt look terrible down the stretch. If I were the Jags Id take KC in a heart beat though.
You also got the Cardinals, Texans, maybe the Chiefs. Many like to call KC a game manager but he is not. I think Kansas City has had enough of game managing at the qb position. The Bills, Dolphins, Browns , Giants. Hell there are a ton of teams Cousins could take to the next level. Sorry Okie but I think there is a huge market. Maybe next time you post you could not be such a fucking moron. [emoji23]
Thank you, sir! May I have another?
skinsfaninok 01-23-2018, 02:42 PM Good point. Alex Smith could give the Jags what they need every bit as much as Kirk Cousins could. Of course, the Jets or Denver could try to trade for Smith, as well.
Yep so I wonder what Kirk is thinking.
Smith
Foles
Keenum?
ELI
Bortles
Could all be on the market and all for wayyyyyy cheaper
punch it in 01-23-2018, 02:48 PM Good point. Alex Smith could give the Jags what they need every bit as much as Kirk Cousins could. Of course, the Jets or Denver could try to trade for Smith, as well.
If i had two of the exact same teams coached by the same staff playing each other and the only difference was Cousins or Smith at quarterback- a controlled experiment if you will - I would take Cousins every day of the week and twice on Sundays.
punch it in 01-23-2018, 02:53 PM Yep so I wonder what Kirk is thinking.
Smith
Foles
Keenum?
ELI
Bortles
Could all be on the market and all for wayyyyyy cheaper
He should be thinking Smith, Bortles suck. (Bortles looked much better down the stretch though) Eli is on his way out soon, Foles looks great but he sort of fell into a perfect situation where their defense is going to take all the pressure off of you (no shootouts), and he has that “this is my chance - cant believe im back in philly going to the superbowl super adrenaline momentum thing going on. Keenum was a one year wonder - mark my words.
skinsfaninok 01-23-2018, 02:56 PM He should be thinking Smith, Bortles suck. (Bortles looked much better down the stretch though) Eli is on his way out soon, Foles looks great but he sort of fell into a perfect situation where their defense is going to take all the pressure off of you (no shootouts), and he has that “this is my chance - cant believe im back in philly going to the superbowl super adrenaline momentum thing going on. Keenum was a one year wonder - mark my words.
Alex smith is not bad man, take a look at his overall career numbers, you'd be surprised.
skinsfaninok 01-23-2018, 03:05 PM @JPFinlay
"Mason Rudolph met with the Redskins and it went great, his strength is a good deep ball"
Mason Rudolph grew up a #Redskins fan and his parents are friends with Joe Gibbs’ son. Rudolph called playing in Washington “a childhood dream.”
diehardskin2982 01-23-2018, 03:12 PM Not sure how it works but why would the Jets give up more than a six pack if Kirk can take $34 mil and then walk at the end of the season?
The NFL is a year to year business. You make the trade if your Broncos, Browns, or Jets because as the head coach, you could be fired at the end of the year. Results Matter. The second reason is exclusivity. If I am the Jets or Browns, how confident am I that Kirk will really consider my offer. If we have him for a year it's possible he will like it and decide to stay.
metalskins 01-23-2018, 03:17 PM Yep so I wonder what Kirk is thinking.
Smith
Foles
Keenum?
ELI
Bortles
Could all be on the market and all for wayyyyyy cheaper
The Foles situation is interesting. The Eagles have worked his contract to where if Nick Foles is still on the Eagles' roster come 2019, then the last three years of his contract is void and he becomes a free agent. Which means it's extremely likely the Eagles try to trade him away this off season. No matter what he does in the Super Bowl, his stock is still going to be sky high in the offseason. Having said that, the Eagles would lose a solid backup/starter that they may need if Wentz is not ready for the start of next season. So, I will be very curious as to what happens with Nick Foles once the Super Bowl is done. The Eagles don't have a 2nd or 3rd round pick this year from what I understand, so essentially, the Eagles could ask for that (or more) and get those picks back or even higher value, depending on the outcome of the Super Bowl.
IF these quarterbacks that you have listed are shopped around or released to free agency, then you also add Bridgewater and Bradford to the list, well now, Kirk Cousins has a lot of hefty competition. There's guys who have won playoffs games and Super Bowls in this list, and Cousins hasn't won either. Cousins just might find his value not nearly as much as it looked to be prior to the offseason. Still doesn't mean he doesn't have options, but the Redskins would have options, and if they have to "over pay" for quarterback, who do you over pay? Your existing QB who knows the system, put up consistently great numbers, but has never won a playoff game, or a quarterback who has proven to have won playoff games, if not the Super Bowl, but maybe doesn't put up as great numbers? Honestly, for me, I don't care, if the QB gets you to a Super Bowl, I don't care how awful his numbers are.
skinsfaninok 01-23-2018, 03:33 PM The Foles situation is interesting. The Eagles have worked his contract to where if Nick Foles is still on the Eagles' roster come 2019, then the last three years of his contract is void and he becomes a free agent. Which means it's extremely likely the Eagles try to trade him away this off season. No matter what he does in the Super Bowl, his stock is still going to be sky high in the offseason. Having said that, the Eagles would lose a solid backup/starter that they may need if Wentz is not ready for the start of next season. So, I will be very curious as to what happens with Nick Foles once the Super Bowl is done. The Eagles don't have a 2nd or 3rd round pick this year from what I understand, so essentially, the Eagles could ask for that (or more) and get those picks back or even higher value, depending on the outcome of the Super Bowl.
IF these quarterbacks that you have listed are shopped around or released to free agency, then you also add Bridgewater and Bradford to the list, well now, Kirk Cousins has a lot of hefty competition. There's guys who have won playoffs games and Super Bowls in this list, and Cousins hasn't won either. Cousins just might find his value not nearly as much as it looked to be prior to the offseason. Still doesn't mean he doesn't have options, but the Redskins would have options, and if they have to "over pay" for quarterback, who do you over pay? Your existing QB who knows the system, put up consistently great numbers, but has never won a playoff game, or a quarterback who has proven to have won playoff games, if not the Super Bowl, but maybe doesn't put up as great numbers? Honestly, for me, I don't care, if the QB gets you to a Super Bowl, I don't care how awful his numbers are.
All of that is true
For years we have starved for that QB to have 30 tds and 3500 yards passing, after the last 3 years having that I would def agree with you. I'd rather have a guy with 24 Tds and lean on a great run game and D like RW did those 2 SB's Seattle was in, a guy that makes plays in crunch time situations. Kirk has been labeled a "stat padder" by players and former players in the league, I don't know how true that is because the dude has to throw a damn lot but still.
Chico23231 01-23-2018, 03:35 PM @JPFinlay
"Mason Rudolph met with the Redskins and it went great, his strength is a good deep ball"
Mason Rudolph grew up a #Redskins fan and his parents are friends with Joe Gibbs’ son. Rudolph called playing in Washington “a childhood dream.”
A buddy of mine who knows his football said this is the guy no one is talking about....legit prospect
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