@ Giants Final Gameday thread of the year !

I'd like to regroup and get Kirk some weapons and some of his guys back. He played like shit today but the sky isn't falling. This has been a rag tag team for the last several weeks.

This! To me, this is the barebones truth. He'll always have great numbers in a vacuum, but if you see when they happen, it comes up a lot more empty than it looks like on the back of a football card.

It is all about the Ws and the guy's W-L percentage is in the range of Gus Frerotte's. I laughed my ass off back in 1998-99 when Gus actually wanted a raise to be resigned. For what? Head butting another wall?

I'd like to regroup and get Kirk some weapons and some of his guys back. He played like shit today but the sky isn't falling. This has been a rag tag team for the last several weeks.



Agreed. This game doesn’t sum up his season. Or career. As bad as it was.

I’m less concerned about Cousins than I am Gruden. How can you let a 2 win division rival with zero to play for bully you? Can we get the other Gruden in here? Or better still, Cowher?


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I'd like to regroup and get Kirk some weapons and some of his guys back. He played like shit today but the sky isn't falling. This has been a rag tag team for the last several weeks.

Kirk is a starting QB, and that is it. He has shown his max potential and like you said has no talent to work with. This guy hasn't done anything to warrant a raise, a raise mind you, that might keep us from getting better talent or keeping the guys that show promise. Do we keep a QB, but always have him surrounded by a rather talent deficient team, or dump the average QB and surround the new guy with a lot of talent? It is a damned if we do, damned if we don't type thing.

I'd like to regroup and get Kirk some weapons and some of his guys back. He played like shit today but the sky isn't falling. This has been a rag tag team for the last several weeks.

You are right good post, my anger got the best of me earlier. Plus who
Is to say Baker won’t be the 1st QB picked by the Browns.

It sucks, but it really was just one game. :/



One really ugly game! Ouch!


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The body of work is an under .500 record with no playoff wins and lots of choking. His body of work is cute stats and big losses.

Was today a big loss? It sounds like some people are mad we didn't finish the season on a strong note today.

S/N what happened to the notion of fielding the best 53, and winning a SB like that? Do people realize Kirk has a 24 million cap hit this year? Adding another few mil onto that is not going to break our backs.

Agreed. This game doesn’t sum up his season. Or career. As bad as it was.

I’m less concerned about Cousins than I am Gruden. How can you let a 2 win division rival with zero to play for bully you? Can we get the other Gruden in here? Or better still, Cowher?


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Doesn't sum up his career? Surely you jest!!!!!

Great way to kick off the year. :(

I'd like to regroup and get Kirk some weapons and some of his guys back. He played like shit today but the sky isn't falling. This has been a rag tag team for the last several weeks.

This has been a rag tag group almost since Gruden came aboard. Remember 2015? We were ravaged by injuries as well. Our FA Wrs stayed healthy for the most part.