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FrenchSkin
12-11-2017, 03:07 PM
[...] It could be our conditioning coach which is Grudens nephew.

Good point, the guy looks like a freak but working out to look good and strengthening and preparing your body for the war are 2 completely different things!

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Chico23231
12-11-2017, 03:11 PM
We gotten new running backs, weve rotated guys in the LG spot .. same result. I want a 3 down TE who can block just as well as he can run routes and catch.
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I cant remember the last time I didnt watch a skins game. I dvr'd the game yesterday, didnt watch it and dont think I will.

I really wouldn't call a 4th round pick a serious investment. Im saying if there is a Davin Cook/Fournette type this draft, we take him. We are developing Sprinkle as that 3 down TE. And LG, Lauvoa goes for sure and we should try something different there.

TheMalcolmConnection
12-11-2017, 03:15 PM
Waiting on us to win the one random game that will drop us back like four slots in the draft.

metalskins
12-11-2017, 03:23 PM
I haven't seen this lack of effort since the last few games of the Shanahan regime. We all know what happened after that. I actually paid more attention to the Eagles-Rams game as that was a very good game with a lot riding on it. However, I would periodically switch back to the 'skins game, and question to myself why I did so!

Dan Snyder needs to just clean house and start over. I don't feel overly confident in Doug Williams being the next great GM, but who knows? Maybe he's (again) what this team needs to win a Super Bowl? I'm kind of at the feeling now that regardless, we'll probably lose Kirk Cousins. Guess we need to just brace ourselves for yet another "tear it all down and rebuild it once again" deal.

skinsfaninok
12-11-2017, 03:23 PM
Waiting on us to win the one random game that will drop us back like four slots in the draft.

That will prob happen against the Giants.

skinsfaninok
12-11-2017, 03:24 PM
I haven't seen this lack of effort since the last few games of the Shanahan regime. We all know what happened after that. I actually paid more attention to the Eagles-Rams game as that was a very good game with a lot riding on it. However, I would periodically switch back to the 'skins game, and question to myself why I did so!

Dan Snyder needs to just clean house and start over. I don't feel overly confident in Doug Williams being the next great GM, but who knows? Maybe he's (again) what this team needs to win a Super Bowl? I'm kind of at the feeling now that regardless, we'll probably lose Kirk Cousins. Guess we need to just brace ourselves for yet another "tear it all down and rebuild it once again" deal.

Yesterday was the first time (not counting being away for army stuff) that I missed the entire first quarter since I was a kid. I probably won't watch the AZ game either, I'll be doing other stuff from now on until next yr.

over the mountain
12-11-2017, 03:29 PM
I really wouldn't call a 4th round pick a serious investment. Im saying if there is a Davin Cook/Fournette type this draft, we take him. We are developing Sprinkle as that 3 down TE. And LG, Lauvoa goes for sure and we should try something different there.

Im in the camp that thinks RB are not worth top end resources .. unless it is a true game breaker. Of course, the skins have followed this path and our run game has sucked. Scheme? lack of top end RB? Idk ... but I dont want our 1st round pick going to the RB position. Rather we draft a QB and give Bell money or something.

Sprinkle may be fine as no. 3 on the TE depth chart but he is not a 3 down TE.

skinsfaninok
12-11-2017, 04:40 PM
“Because when you look at everything and how everything is panning out, you have to look at the coach first,” Moss said on NBC Sports Washington. “I know the players have to play the game. And as a player, I always said we have to play the game; we have control of what happens on that field. But you also have to be coached by that guy. And not to say he’s not doing a good job in my eyes. I just feel like, from ownership, they have to look at that coach and see if he’s the right one for the future.”

metalskins
12-11-2017, 04:58 PM
“Because when you look at everything and how everything is panning out, you have to look at the coach first,” Moss said on NBC Sports Washington. “I know the players have to play the game. And as a player, I always said we have to play the game; we have control of what happens on that field. But you also have to be coached by that guy. And not to say he’s not doing a good job in my eyes. I just feel like, from ownership, they have to look at that coach and see if he’s the right one for the future.”

I'm almost willing to go the College coach route again. I would love more than anything to snag Jim Harbaugh, but again, it all starts with the right guy in the front office getting you the players. You know, Vinny Cerrato and company helped to bring in some solid players (Santana Moss, London Fletcher, Sean Taylor, Chris Samuels, Jon Jansen, etc..) although we all know he's always going to be known for the over the hill, high dollar priced big names like Albert Hanesworth.

Same with Bruce Allen. Under his tenure, the 'skins have picked up some solid players, and have largely missed on others. I actually feel Allen is equal to Vinny Cerrato. Only difference is, Allen brought in the mustard pants which i don't really care for, and he has a "contracts guy" who does all the negotiations and working of the contracts. The contracts have been a pretty solid thing under Allen, but in regards to finding quality depth and those bargain basement players that can make all the difference in the world, Allen has largely failed with this. And in my opinion, it's not who you choose in the first few rounds that measures your competency as a GM, but who you find at the end of the draft, free agency, and undrafted players. That's what separated Bobby Beathard from the rest IMO.

It all starts with finding the right GM. I don't know of any other GM right off the top of my head, who would be available, or head of scouting that's ready to make the leap, that would be better than Scot McCloughan. I think he would come back to the Redskins if Allen is gone. I think Snyder would welcome him back. The team needs a competent GM who's going to have real power to form the product you see out on the field each and every weekend. All Allen did was go by McCloughan's draft board, for the most part, but other than that, he's managed to lose two 1000 yard receivers and cast a group of guys who have been largely injured throughout the season.

Heck, McCloughan at least brought in mid-season guys who have been difference makers, like Vernon Davis. What has Allen been able to bring in during mid season to give this team a huge lift?

skinsfaninok
12-11-2017, 05:16 PM
I'm almost willing to go the College coach route again. I would love more than anything to snag Jim Harbaugh, but again, it all starts with the right guy in the front office getting you the players. You know, Vinny Cerrato and company helped to bring in some solid players (Santana Moss, London Fletcher, Sean Taylor, Chris Samuels, Jon Jansen, etc..) although we all know he's always going to be known for the over the hill, high dollar priced big names like Albert Hanesworth.

Same with Bruce Allen. Under his tenure, the 'skins have picked up some solid players, and have largely missed on others. I actually feel Allen is equal to Vinny Cerrato. Only difference is, Allen brought in the mustard pants which i don't really care for, and he has a "contracts guy" who does all the negotiations and working of the contracts. The contracts have been a pretty solid thing under Allen, but in regards to finding quality depth and those bargain basement players that can make all the difference in the world, Allen has largely failed with this. And in my opinion, it's not who you choose in the first few rounds that measures your competency as a GM, but who you find at the end of the draft, free agency, and undrafted players. That's what separated Bobby Beathard from the rest IMO.

It all starts with finding the right GM. I don't know of any other GM right off the top of my head, who would be available, or head of scouting that's ready to make the leap, that would be better than Scot McCloughan. I think he would come back to the Redskins if Allen is gone. I think Snyder would welcome him back. The team needs a competent GM who's going to have real power to form the product you see out on the field each and every weekend. All Allen did was go by McCloughan's draft board, for the most part, but other than that, he's managed to lose two 1000 yard receivers and cast a group of guys who have been largely injured throughout the season.

Heck, McCloughan at least brought in mid-season guys who have been difference makers, like Vernon Davis. What has Allen been able to bring in during mid season to give this team a huge lift?



I just cant do college man, they never work out 95% of the time. I think we need a younger hungry guy like Josh Mcdaniels or Sean Mcvay... Oh wait

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