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Giantone 12-14-2017, 10:23 AM REPUBLICANS!!! Do they realize what this looks like? If they get away with this all hell will break lose,this is just proof that trump has damaged this country!
Republicans introduce resolution to remove Mueller as special counsel - Business Insider (http://www.businessinsider.com/republicans-introduce-bill-to-remove-bob-mueller-from-special-counsel-2017-11)
This guy I thought put Trey Gowdy in his place.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-russia/senior-justice-official-dismisses-republican-charges-of-bias-in-trump-probe-idUSKBN1E728J
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/justice-department/republicans-step-attacks-special-counsel-robert-mueller-n829306
Chico23231 12-14-2017, 11:34 AM REPUBLICANS!!! Do they realize what this looks like? If they get away with this all hell will break lose,this is just proof that trump has damaged this country!
Republicans introduce resolution to remove Mueller as special counsel - Business Insider (http://www.businessinsider.com/republicans-introduce-bill-to-remove-bob-mueller-from-special-counsel-2017-11)
This guy I thought put Trey Gowdy in his place.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-russia/senior-justice-official-dismisses-republican-charges-of-bias-in-trump-probe-idUSKBN1E728J
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/justice-department/republicans-step-attacks-special-counsel-robert-mueller-n829306
You know what....its time to get woke bout the Mueller investigation...and his team.
While Im a fan of Mueller, his team is politically biased and has tainted the investigation. At this point, probably time to stop the investigation and actually investigate the research and research-ies.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2017/12/11/russia-collusion-investigation-suspend-robert-muellers-bias-democratic-investigation-robbins-column/938619001/
FBI agent's anti-Trump text messages released to Congress - CNNPolitics (http://www.cnn.com/2017/12/12/politics/peter-strzok-texts-released/index.html)
https://www.politico.com/story/2017/12/12/fbi-agents-trump-mueller-texts-294156
Of course you have to dig deep to find this information because national media isn't reporting it. Doesn't fit the narrative. key issues:
"The central figure in both probes is FBI agent Peter Strzok. Strzok helped conduct the sweetheart interviews of Clinton, Cheryl Mills and Huma Abedin in the email investigation, in which the latter two blatantly lied about their knowledge of the bootleg server. They were not charged. Strzok also changed then-FBI Director James Comey’s draft language on Clinton’s use of her illicit server from “grossly negligent” to “extremely careless,” which is the difference between criminal behavior and an unconscious error.
Strzok promoted the Fusion GPS “Steele dossier,” the sketchy gossip-ridden anti-Trump document paid for by the Clinton campaign and compiled with input from Russian intelligence sources. "
"A series of text messages exchanged between top FBI employees referring to then-presidential candidate Donald Trump as an "idiot" and "d*uche," while fearing his potential victory as "terrifying," were released to lawmakers Tuesday evening on Capitol Hill amid increasing demands to see them, according to documents reviewed by CNN.
Earlier this month, reports surfaced that special counsel Robert Mueller had removed Peter Strzok, one of the FBI's top Russian counterintelligence experts, from his team after an internal investigation by the Justice Department's inspector general uncovered politically tinged messages exchanged with FBI lawyer Lisa Page.
Throughout the primary season in 2016, Strzok and Page appeared to dread a Trump victory, according to the messages reviewed by CNN."
So this is an unbiased investigation?
This investigation is clearly biased... Mueller gotta lotta plaining to do. Consider yourself officially "WOKE" :)
mooby 12-14-2017, 12:35 PM The beauty of a criminal investigation is that once it goes to trial, actual evidence is what determines if a person is guilty or not. Was Strzok corrupted by personal bias? Yes, but unless the game plan was to use Strzok's testimony in court that Trump is an incompetent boob, it's not going to make a difference. This whole case is contingent upon evidence that Trump/co. colluded with Russians. So they will either need someone from that circle to flip and testify (like Flynn perhaps) and/or they will need actual evidence, let's say bank accounts, phone records, video of them meeting up, etc. to prove they committed a crime.
What are you asking for, a totally non-partisan team of investigators to investigate? LOL we might as well shut the investigation down then.
As the old saying goes, what are you afraid of? If you don't have anything to hide, you're in the clear.
BaltimoreSkins 12-14-2017, 02:51 PM If the republican argument for Neil Gorsuch is that a judge will rule based on facts and not on political opinion then I will assume that an FBI investigator can do the same.
CRedskinsRule 12-14-2017, 03:01 PM If the republican argument for Neil Gorsuch is that a judge will rule based on facts and not on political opinion then I will assume that an FBI investigator can do the same.
Except when the same investigator handles two similar situations (Flynn and Abedin) in two polar opposite ways with a clear stated bias.
TheMalcolmConnection 12-14-2017, 03:17 PM The beauty of a criminal investigation is that once it goes to trial, actual evidence is what determines if a person is guilty or not. Was Strzok corrupted by personal bias? Yes, but unless the game plan was to use Strzok's testimony in court that Drumpf is an incompetent boob, it's not going to make a difference. This whole case is contingent upon evidence that Drumpf/co. colluded with Russians. So they will either need someone from that circle to flip and testify (like Flynn perhaps) and/or they will need actual evidence, let's say bank accounts, phone records, video of them meeting up, etc. to prove they committed a crime.
What are you asking for, a totally non-partisan team of investigators to investigate? LOL we might as well shut the investigation down then.
As the old saying goes, what are you afraid of? If you don't have anything to hide, you're in the clear.
This. Evidence should be what wins the day. I hate Donald Trump more than anyone on this planet, and I would actually work damn hard to find something concrete. If I didn't find something, then hey, I'm just a guy who hates Trump. If I did, whatever, the proof is still in the delicious, delicious pudding.
Giantone 12-14-2017, 04:48 PM FBI agent's anti-Trump text messages released to Congress - CNNPolitics (http://www.cnn.com/2017/12/12/politics/peter-strzok-texts-released/index.html)
So this is an unbiased investigation?
This investigation is clearly biased... Mueller gotta lotta plaining to do. Consider yourself officially "WOKE" :)
Chico ,news flash ,everyone in this country has an opinion on trump.Who was the FBI agent texting when he wrote that text???
Chico ,I like you but you need to educate yourself.
Newest Additions to Our Trump-Russia Timeline (http://billmoyers.com/story/heres-whats-new-trump-russia-timeline/)
As others have pointed out,if facts come to light it doesn't matter what my opinion is as long as the facts are true or the information is truthful.
CRedskinsRule 12-14-2017, 05:00 PM Chico ,news flash ,everyone in this country has an opinion on trump.Who was the FBI agent texting when he wrote that text???
Chico ,I like you but you need to educate yourself.
Newest Additions to Our Trump-Russia Timeline (http://billmoyers.com/story/heres-whats-new-trump-russia-timeline/)
As others have pointed out,if facts come to light it doesn't matter what my opinion is as long as the facts are true or the information is truthful.
Sorry, and I know it's tit for tat, and old news, and all that crap, BUT when in one investigation Abedin lied about the email servers in an interview with the biased FBI investigator and that's NOT obstruction of justice or worthy of charging her with lying to the FBI as determined by the acknowledged biased investigator, and then Flynn lied about a legal activity (contacting Russia as staff of the President elect), to the same investigator and IS charged, then I think it's reasonable to question if the investigator acted in bad faith, and the "facts" received are somehow tainted.
In the Clinton case, the Daily Caller reported that FBI documents show Huma Abedin and Cheryl Mills told investigators they were not aware of Clinton’s email server until after Clinton left the State Department. However, released emails show Abedin and Mills discussing the server long before Clinton left the State Department. The two were both interviewed by Strzok and never faced criminal prosecution.
On the other hand, Michael Flynn, Trump’s first national security adviser, was charged with lying to the FBI last week for dishonest statements he gave in an interview with the FBI on Jan. 24. Strzok was the agent who interviewed him
mooby 12-14-2017, 05:33 PM Except when the same investigator handles two similar situations (Flynn and Abedin) in two polar opposite ways with a clear stated bias.
True, hence why he was removed from his job and demoted. And fortunately for you, he wasn't in a position to decide whether or not to bring charges anyways. So if all he brought to the table was corrupt bullshit, you are saying you don't have faith in Mueller that he could correctly decide whether that evidence would be admissible in court. Nor do you have faith that a pro-Republican Congress could look at that same evidence and determine whether it's admissible or not. This case is not going to built on his testimony. I bet Flynn will be the star witness, most likely along intercepts from Russia and other circumstantial bits and pieces used to tie it together.
CRedskinsRule 12-14-2017, 05:38 PM True, hence why he was removed from his job and demoted. And fortunately for you, he wasn't in a position to decide whether or not to bring charges anyways. So if all he brought to the table was corrupt bullshit, you are saying you don't have faith in Mueller that he could correctly decide whether that evidence would be admissible in court. Nor do you have faith that a pro-Republican Congress could look at that same evidence and determine whether it's admissible or not. This case is not going to built on his testimony. I bet Flynn will be the star witness, most likely along intercepts from Russia and other circumstantial bits and pieces used to tie it together.
I said before, if a majority Republican house sees the evidence and votes to impeach, or if the Supreme Court upholds the removal from office, I will abide by that.
But it's interesting, how many cases Baltimore just threw out on the basis of fake evidence by biased cops. The question is could a clearly biased investigator either by omitting evidence that clears or allowing patently false evidence (Steele Dossier) into the record, sway a case to a false end?
I think so...
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