The hypocrisy of the ________

No it's about the deaths caused by guns. And the fact that more people are killed by cars then guns, and the fact that order of magnitude more people with no voice are killed because they have no voice. Gun violence creates fear, and fear motivates politicians to make bad laws. Car deaths are accepted because of the necessity of cars is seen as greater then the necessity of guns. Death by abortion is accepted because the murdered party can't defend themselves with twitter accounts #inutero

If you're going to do the cars/guns argument I'm going to rebuke with the "let's treat guns the same way we treat cars" argument. You need a license to drive, you have to attend a class and take a test at the end of class to prove you are worthy to drive. You have to get your license renewed every 5 years, and your license can be suspended or revoked for any number of reasons.

Deal? deal.

If you're going to do the cars/guns argument I'm going to rebuke with the "let's treat guns the same way we treat cars" argument. You need a license to drive, you have to attend a class and take a test at the end of class to prove you are worthy to drive. You have to get your license renewed every 5 years, and your license can be suspended or revoked for any number of reasons.

Deal? deal.

Don't forget ,............age (must be 16/17) and must have Insurance on your car .

Don't forget ,............age (must be 16/17) and must have Insurance on your car .

I don't think 15 year olds can legally buy guns anywhere.

How would insurance work for guns, just curious.

If you're going to do the cars/guns argument I'm going to rebuke with the "let's treat guns the same way we treat cars" argument. You need a license to drive, you have to attend a class and take a test at the end of class to prove you are worthy to drive. You have to get your license renewed every 5 years, and your license can be suspended or revoked for any number of reasons.

Deal? deal.
I think background checks are fairly equivalent to the licensing and renewing a DL is a joke, you don't retest, you don't even go in anymore, all you need is your eyesight checked (if you want to make sure all gun owners have 20/20 vision, makes hitting the target easier). Background checks and DL both ensure that you are legally allowed to own a gun/drive a car.

I think most responsible gun owners have gun safety classes, but if it was required to take gun safety courses, as long as it's not used as a permanent bar, (unless you are incapable of understanding how to use a safety because then you're an idiot)

You already can lose your right to gun ownership if you recklessly use your gun just like you can a license, by committing a felony (reckless driving, dui, etc) in fact any felony causes you to lose your right to bear arms, but you can murder someone and still drive a car (once you finish your life sentence).

So deal!

YAY

I don't think 15 year olds can legally buy guns anywhere.

How would insurance work for guns, just curious.

Gun shows , I don't know if it was legal or illegal but I know and saw a 14 year old buy a gun, a shot gun.In VA.

Gun shows , I don't know if it was legal or illegal but I know and saw a 14 year old buy a gun, a shot gun.In VA.

There are about 10 states that let a 14 yo get a learners permit, most allow 15 year olds, but a more relevant (maybe) comparison would be mopeds. They are not regulated the same as cars, and shotguns aren't regulated the same as handguns or semi automatics.

In San Jose, a Different Approach to Gun Control (https://www.nytimes.com/2019/08/13/us/san-jose-mayor-gun-insurance.html)

I think a big thing to remember in the Gun Control argument is constitutional law.

So when we think of licenses, insurance, registrations, you gotta think about that.

But again, we aren't addressing the mass shooter issue at all. So we are actually fine with mass shooters and its more about guns, right? Kinda like the New Green Deal, its not really about climate, but imposing, forcing socialism on the country.

I think a big thing to remember in the Gun Control argument is constitutional law.

So when we think of licenses, insurance, registrations, you gotta think about that.

But again, we aren't addressing the mass shooter issue at all. So we are actually fine with mass shooters and its more about guns, right? Kinda like the New Green Deal, its not really about climate, but imposing, forcing socialism on the country.

Seriously, this makes no sense.

Seriously, this makes no sense.

yeah...I think what im getting at is registrations, licenses, insurance, etc is not addressing this uptick in mass shootings. I think we should really focus on that rather than the gun. There is a constitutional right and gun violence dramatically drop....so why do we have an uptick in the mass shooting phenomenon?

So items like Red flag law, a concerted effort to deal with domestic terrorism such as white supremacist, mental health education starting early in school, mandatory 5 years if possessing illegal gun, etc these focus more on folks who shouldn't be in possession of a gun, mental health to help the youth, and fighting extremist ideology which is easily assessable online.

I have relatives who could arm a small country and have never even gotten a speeding ticket. What do you say to the millions of those?