The Jay Gruden thread.

https://www.si.com/nfl/2017/09/28/washington-redskins-jay-gruden-nfl-offseason-roster

It's been 4 years, how would you grade Jay in that time frame?

23-28-1 record.

I am sold on the guy and hope he is here for a LONG time, he's a damn good coach that is only going to get better.

He has turned this team into a competitor every season.

I think he will be a winning coach but never a SB winning coach. Still I would roll with him for another 4 years regardless of the KC resolution

https://www.si.com/nfl/2017/09/28/washington-redskins-jay-gruden-nfl-offseason-roster

It's been 4 years, how would you grade Jay in that time frame?

23-28-1 record.

I am sold on the guy and hope he is here for a LONG time, he's a damn good coach that is only going to get better.

He has turned this team into a competitor every season.Personally I agree with everything you said!

While I admit that he isn't as good a coach as his brother Jon, Jay has done a wonderful job with the players he has been given.

And I agree too that he is he has turned the Redskins into a fairly consistent winner or at least a contender.

Even the 'haters' have to say that Jay has at least made the Redskins consistently Revlant.

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Personally I agree with everything you said!

While I admit that he isn't as good a coach as his brother Jon, Jay has done a wonderful job with the players he has been given.

And I agree too that he is he has turned the Redskins into a fairly consistent winner or at least a contender.

Even the 'haters' have to say that Jay has at least made the Redskins consistently Revlant.

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Im not sure that it's a definite thing that Jon is better. He had some ups and downs in his career, and his only Super Bowl was in his first year with Tampa in which you can't really credit him with building that team (even Jon credited Dungy after the Super Bowl), and they came back to earth next year after losing a lot of their stars. After that, he never made it past Wild Card.

Certainly after 4 years he had a better record with the Raiders than Jay will after this year, but if it is a good season it won't be by much, and when you consider what he inherited (dysfunction and RG3), can you really count the 4-12 record from his first season?

All I'm saying is the jury is still out on that...

I'm very pro-Jay. My fandom began in the Norv Turner years, and the only thing close to the same level of professionalism, team building, and coaching acumen that we've had here was Gibbs 2.0. Even when he first came back it was known that it was a stopgap. Now we have a coach that could be here for 10+ years. The way this season is starting out, they may be the best they've been since Gibbs 1.0. This is a very exciting time for this franchise.



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Im not sure that it's a definite thing that Jon is better. He had some ups and downs in his career, and his only Super Bowl was in his first year with Tampa in which you can't really credit him with building that team (even Jon credited Dungy after the Super Bowl), and they came back to earth next year after losing a lot of their stars. After that, he never made it past Wild Card.

Certainly after 4 years he had a better record with the Raiders than Jay will after this year, but if it is a good season it won't be by much, and when you consider what he inherited (dysfunction and RG3), can you really count the 4-12 record from his first season?

All I'm saying is the jury is still out on that...

I'm very pro-Jay. My fandom began in the Norv Turner years, and the only thing close to the same level of professionalism, team building, and coaching acumen that we've had here was Gibbs 2.0. Even when he first came back it was known that it was a stopgap. Now we have a coach that could be here for 10+ years. The way this season is starting out, they may be the best they've been since Gibbs 1.0. This is a very exciting time for this franchise.



Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkVery Good Assessment!

Personally, however, I am one of the 'Veterans' that remember the Glory of the Gibbs 1.0 years. So anything after that is a tall order.

As for the comparison between Jon and Jay, my only minor complaint with Jay is that is does seem, at times, to try to be too much of a Players Coach.

Just my personal opinion...Jay needs to be a bit tougher on the players.

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PRO JAY!!!!! We could do a lot worse!

PRO JAY!!!!! We could do a lot worse!From the guy who called 0-4?

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Very Good Assessment!

Personally, however, I am one of the 'Veterans' that remember the Glory of the Gibbs 1.0 years. So anything after that is a tall order.

As for the comparison between Jon and Jay, my only minor complaint with Jay is that is does seem, at times, to try to be too much of a Players Coach.

Just my personal opinion...Jay needs to be a bit tougher on the players.

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Yeah, I hear that a lot. That he's too soft on players, but I don't see it...

I will say he has a laid back demeanor. He's not "Chucky," but what Redskins coach has been more critical of their players?

He called out RG3

Matt Jones . . . You fumble and don't improve year over year, you are cut in favor of Mack Brown.

Doctson. You don't practice you don't play.

Sua - figure your shit out . . . Next man up.

He blew up a D line that had some talent but wasn't performing. . . How's that working out?

Compton is a coach favorite, but with two more talented players he's become backup, and even Spaight is getting playing time over him.

Anyways, I respect your perspective and like I said, he doesn't have that fire on the sidelines, but do you have any examples of him being easy on his players?



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I think he will be a winning coach but never a SB winning coach. Still I would roll with him for another 4 years regardless of the KC resolution

I agree with this. I could see this being a real possibility, however I'd love to be proven wrong on that.

Still he's an upgrade in an area where we've tried many solutions and all have failed. So I'm thankful for that. After the start we've had this year I'm happy to give him credit for progress made. I also think this year gives us yet another example of preseason results meaning very little when it counts.

I also see the improvements we've made on the field and the weight he's dropped in the offseason as signs that he wants to be taken seriously. I'm trying to tread a fine line here because I'm not saying he needs to be in shape for players or coaches to take him seriously, but the weight he's dropped tells me that he's trying to practice what he preaches, which is never a bad thing. How can you emphasize how important being in game shape is when you are also out-of-shape?