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Drift Reality 06-01-2005, 11:12 AM Good point djnemo65.
I'm still bitter about how much material we traded to move up to get Campbell, but this helps me feel a little bit better.
TheMalcolmConnection 06-01-2005, 11:27 AM It's amazing to me how many people don't realize that in Ramsey's last seven starts (take away that Giants game) he had a passer rating of roughly 85 and a completion of right around 65%. Patrick came very close to leading us in a victory against the NFC champs/chumps Eagles. I personally do not doubt his ability at all. As far as Campbell goes, I think that our staff just felt like he was too good to pass up and not necessarily PR's replacement. Following the draft I heard a lot of experts say that Campbell was actually rated higher than Aaron Rogers on atleast 10 teams boards. We can all question why we gave up so many picks for the 25 spot, but if anyone listened to Gibbs after the draft he gave some explanations and some insight as to why we gave up so much. Ramsey is the man like it or not.
I like Ramsey too, but just to be a fly in the ointment, not too many of those passes were over ten yards. It's easy to complete screens.
I like Ramsey too, but just to be a fly in the ointment, not too many of those passes were over ten yards. It's easy to complete screens.
True, but look at McNabb who until last year didn't have a single season completion percentage above 59%, and that's playing in a west coast system full of short passes and screens.
We shouldn't fault Ramsey for being accurate with the short stuff. It's easier said than done.
TheMalcolmConnection 06-01-2005, 11:38 AM True. But he IS an NFL QB and that's his job. Like I said, I'm just being devil's advocate. I KNOW he can get it done and I fully expect him to this year. I'm sure his passing yardage will jump up because of better blocking for the screen passes.
djnemo65 06-01-2005, 11:41 AM Patrick came very close to leading us in a victory against the NFC champs/chumps Eagles
Um, yeah, until he threw up a jumpball to brian dawkins and i believe sheldon brown when we were down by 3 in fg range. also, i think the defense had something to do with us being in that game, holding the prolific birds to only 17. There's no doubt that Ramsey can peform for periods of time, but then he goes and makes a play like that which costs us the game. Remember, the difference between Manning and Mcown is very slight - alot of it is plays like that.
TheMalcolmConnection 06-01-2005, 11:46 AM Right. That's the ONLY thing I'm worried about with Ramsey. He'll play consistently all game and he'll make one or two KEY bad plays.
ChounsMan 06-01-2005, 12:01 PM I think one of the more intriguing stories on the Redskins will involve Patrick Ramsey's future. Considering we traded a considerable amount of picks to trade up and draft Jason Campbell, I would say the writing on the wall is fairly clear.
At the same time, Ramsey has at least one year to prove his mettle before they even consider giving Campbell a shot.
My question is, what happens if Ramsey has a decent year and ends up with a QB rating in the neighborhood of 80-85. What if another team were to offer a top-10 first round pick for him. Would you make the trade, knowing that he had one more year left on his contract and that you had Gibbs' guy waiting in the wings?
NFL Pro Scouts know what they have with Ramsey & they are now seeing how much more they are getting with Campbell. Even if Ramsey has a breakout season, it's not going to change where the skins are moving towards in the future.
Campbell has tons more upside then Ramsey ever had, plus Campbell throws a better ball with more touch then Ramsey ever had.
Ramsey is playing this season for the NFL Scouts to rate his tradability.
firstdown 06-01-2005, 12:06 PM Ramsey's problems is not his arm, decision making, quickness, its his hair. How can you be a top NFL QB with a hair cut like that. He must go to Hair-R-US for the 6 dollar special.
TheMalcolmConnection 06-01-2005, 12:08 PM All he has to do is grow long hair like Brady and he's golden.
skinsguy 06-01-2005, 12:17 PM Gibbs has made it PAINFULLY clear he has no trust in Ramsey.
I dunno about that. I mean, for a coach not to trust his Quarterback, he sure was quick about giving Ramsey the starting job for this season - even before last season was over with. I say Gibbs does trust Ramsey - I think Gibbs' trust in Brunell is probably in question considering the acquition of Jason Campbell.
Then again, MB might prove us all wrong and go back to his old ways. Wow...a three way QB conflict! Wow... :headbange
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