Patrick Ramsey's Future

i like ramsey too, but the potential campbell has is awesome to think about. 6'5" and can sramble plenty; with a very good arm, maybe not as strong as ramsey's but very solid in strength. i watch auburn alot on cbs the sec channel during college football season. i dont know if its regional or whatever but i watched campbell quite a bit and his arm can go downfield. i love the fact he has mobility that ramsey just cant physically do yet has a very good arm and pretty accurate from what i seen in his college days

i like ramsay also but it looks like campbell is our guy. i have a friend who supported auburn all of last year and was telling me that campbell is a very smart qb who doesn't make mistakes. he is very accurate and who unlike ramsey can make something happen with his feet. it was a very decision for gibbs to put pressure on ramsey instead of letting him get comfortable back there. if ramsey does not get it this year than he will never get it. i have questioned gibbs decision to give brunell so much money when we could have waited and gave him a veteran's minimal. i thought that brunell could still play but hey not our 2nd pick. his arm is shot and it looks very bad for gibbs who thought so highly of brunell. i think that campbell is the real gibbs guy who will possibly be the next doug williams.

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I'm serious though. I'm Ramseyfan because I love the guy - he's got heart, he's humble, he's a hard worker, he's got a howitzer for an arm, and he'll take one...or two, or three, or four....for the team.

BUT, I'm a Redskins' fan first, a Ramseyfan second. I recognize that our franchise can only afford to give him or two more FULL seasons to show why he's our franchise quarterback. Fortunately, I think he'll be good enough next season to make us hesitate about taking even a top 10 draft pick.

I definitely agree. I think this season will be his breakout season. I think that he and Taylor Jacobs will be the biggest surprises of the year.

I think that ramsey will have a good year and then either be traded will a #1 draft pick as compensation or take the #2 spot here in washington. It is a raw deal that ramsey has gotten since coming to the nfl but you cant go back and change that. campbell will have the good fortune to have some very good coaches grooming him for the future. With his current abilities further enhanced by being here, it looks like he will be a excellent qb. He is a very good match for the system here. I really like ramsey and would hate to see him go. But we all do want the best man in there to get the wins. Ideally I would love to have campbell as starting qb with ramsey as #2. Not sure how I feel about brunell staying. I like him very much and feel he brings alot of intangibles to the table. But I dont think we should be paying him so much money for intangibles.

Gibbs has always been the type that doesn't mind QB controversy, he thinks having two real good QBs is a great problem to have. I don't think he has "a guy", he just wants to have a couple good ones on hand, and he'll end up playing the best one. Simple as that. I don't think he brought in Campbell with the intention of trading Ramsey, and I don't think he views Campbell as Ramsey's automatic successor. He's just going to give them both a shot, evaluate them, and play the best one.

What happens in two years with Ramsey's contract is anyone's guess at this point, the salary cap will surely play a role. But I don't think Gibbs will trade Ramsey if he has one of those Drew Brees breakout years. He'll keep him and play him, despite Campbell warming the bench.

Not only that, if Ramsey has a Brees-type year, I'll be the first person to stand up for him to get a nice fat contract. He has gone through so much shit since he's been drafted. If we can get a good year out of him, I think he deserves it. Years like Brees had aren't just flukes.

We are are in a win-win because we really get to see what Patrick has in him this year. Gibbs has made it PAINFULLY clear he has no trust in Ramsey. Giving him the reins to the offense this year doesn't mean anything. Gibbs is not a Ramsey guy. If Pat shows up awesome, if he doesn't we got Campbell to look forward too, even though, it is WAAAAAAAAAY to early to get excited about Campbell.

Ramsey will have 21 TD's and 12 picks this year, we go 9-7 and get a wildcard, and then, we will have a mother of a QB controversy in July of 06!!!

even though, it is WAAAAAAAAAY to early to get excited about Campbell.

This is a key point. As fans, we have a tendency to get caught up in excitement and hype that we hear on our players. We hear from Pro Football Weekly's whispers that scouts are raving about Jason Campbell in Redskins practices, saying he can really throw the ball. I think that's nice to get excited about, but there was never any doubt that Campbell can deliver the ball, we knew that from the moment we drafted him. The big question is can the guy master the mental intricacies of the NFL and run Gibbs' offense. The knocks on Campbell were for his intelligence, and it's important to keep that in mind. Hopefully he develops himself in that aspect and proves that he can do it. But I like to keep myself grounded; Patrick Ramsey is still the unquestioned QB of this team until Campbell proves otherwise, and nobody knows if he will.

Although I thought the Campbell pick was, at least at the time, inscrutable, I think I've come to understand that surely part of what's going on involves Joe attempting to light a fire under Ramsey, as I think Jansen phrased it during the draft. I'm sure they looked carefully at the San Diego situtation in which Brees found himself in a much less secure position - basically a four game final evaluation - and responded like a champion. Now no one can no for sure what role Rivers played in Brees's metamorphoses from second round bust to franchise starter, but we do know this; great qb's respond to pressure by playing great.

Look, Ramsey's gotta step up already, no more development. He's been in the league long enough that it's now time to perform; the expectations are the same for Joey Harrington and David Carr this year. If he really is the great player we all seem to think he is, he'll respond to Campbell's presence by winning. If he doesn't, then he probably didn't have what it takes anyway. If he does get it together this year like I believe he can, and this is in answer to the question, I think he'll stay in Washington for a long time. Campbell will be a bonus, much like Rivers. If Ramsey continues to move sideways he's gone in two years and its on to the next guy.

Either way, the Campbell pick is starting to look better to me because it accelerates the Ramsey evaluation process.

It's amazing to me how many people don't realize that in Ramsey's last seven starts (take away that Giants game) he had a passer rating of roughly 85 and a completion of right around 65%. Patrick came very close to leading us in a victory against the NFC champs/chumps Eagles. I personally do not doubt his ability at all. As far as Campbell goes, I think that our staff just felt like he was too good to pass up and not necessarily PR's replacement. Following the draft I heard a lot of experts say that Campbell was actually rated higher than Aaron Rogers on atleast 10 teams boards. We can all question why we gave up so many picks for the 25 spot, but if anyone listened to Gibbs after the draft he gave some explanations and some insight as to why we gave up so much. Ramsey is the man like it or not.