Draft Busts. How do they fool us and the NFL?

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Irrefutable
05-08-2017, 07:57 PM
Is that you Colombo?

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Einstein what was the price ?

Glasgow Celtic
05-08-2017, 07:58 PM
Einstein what was the price ?
1 million dollars sir.

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Bangee7
05-08-2017, 08:50 PM
I know for what it's worth in Glaswiegen

At u Colombo?

But what a ride he gave us, still don't know whether to blame him or Shanny for not hooking him when it looked like his knee was going against the cuntbirds.

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Shanny was all in it...remember the whole "Dr Andrews said he was good" stuff? That's about when the circus clowns appeared on their bikes.

J. Falcon
05-08-2017, 09:08 PM
RG3 could have lasted a lot longer and probably even have been better if he had just learned to slide.

skinsfan69
05-08-2017, 09:37 PM
Griffin can't protect himself, refuses to try to protect himself and can't beat you from the pocket. He's had plenty of chances when healthy so the knee was never the issue.

High risk w/ spread qb's. You can go all the way back to Andre Ware. It rarely works. Yet every year they' re taken high with multipe picks involved. Watson will struggle in Houston. Trubisky doesn't have a chance in hell. The kid from Texas Tech? He might have a chance cause of Andy Reid. Maybe,

Giantone
05-09-2017, 05:31 AM
The point ,it's not an exact science .I don't think they are fooling anyone or trying to.The draft for lack of a better explanation is luck.Yes you do your homework and try to cut down on mistakes and improve your odds but in the end it comes down to....can these college players adapt to the NFL game which is much different,some can and some can not.

Redskins247
05-09-2017, 09:04 AM
Snake...I think it comes down to teams (scouts, gm, coaches, owner) just become enamored with what a player did in college, no matter the system. RGIII's case is a perfect example...sure he was in that spread offense (who isn't these days) but he lit it up and ran all over people. Couple that with his bright personality and starving for QB team like the Redskins could not resist...especially the owner in our case. I remember plenty of talking heads saying they would not take him that high and that durability was legit concern, but in the end, they took him on the "chance" that he'd be great and overcome those things.

skinsfan69
05-09-2017, 12:04 PM
Snake...I think it comes down to teams (scouts, gm, coaches, owner) just become enamored with what a player did in college, no matter the system. RGIII's case is a perfect example...sure he was in that spread offense (who isn't these days) but he lit it up and ran all over people. Couple that with his bright personality and starving for QB team like the Redskins could not resist...especially the owner in our case. I remember plenty of talking heads saying they would not take him that high and that durability was legit concern, but in the end, they took him on the "chance" that he'd be great and overcome those things.

I'm sure there were people inside Redskin Park that probably said not to do that deal. It was the exact same thing with the Browns and Manziel. Jerry Jones had to be talked out of taking the guy by his own son.

I actually think the Browns did the right thing this year. They waited for a QB that they didn't have to reach for. Where the Texans and Bears took too much risk, as did the Rams last year. These teams that are hard up for a QB fall into the same trap that Snyder did.

Chico23231
05-09-2017, 01:08 PM
I'm sure there were people inside Redskin Park that probably said not to do that deal. It was the exact same thing with the Browns and Manziel. Jerry Jones had to be talked out of taking the guy by his own son.

I actually think the Browns did the right thing this year. They waited for a QB that they didn't have to reach for. Where the Texans and Bears took too much risk, as did the Rams last year. These teams that are hard up for a QB fall into the same trap that Snyder did.

I think 1st thing you need to do, especially when moving up in the first round...everyone needs to be on the same page within the organization...Coach, GM, OC....RG3 was a Bruce/Dan pick...SHanny and lil shanny jr didn't want him.

Now you hear the samething from the Bears organization...John Fox had no clue about the move up and didn't want trubisky after the Glennon signing.

Apparently the GM Pace believes Trubisky skill set is that of Luck.

Report: Bears G.M. didn’t tell his coach about plans to draft Mitch Trubisky | ProFootballTalk (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2017/04/28/report-bears-g-m-didnt-tell-his-coach-about-plans-to-draft-mitch-trubisky/)

Everyone needs to have the same vision

MTK
05-09-2017, 03:15 PM
The point ,it's not an exact science .I don't think they are fooling anyone or trying to.The draft for lack of a better explanation is luck.Yes you do your homework and try to cut down on mistakes and improve your odds but in the end it comes down to....can these college players adapt to the NFL game which is much different,some can and some can not.



Pretty much this. It's the unpredictability of the human factor. Too many variables that you can't account for outside of 40 times and bench press reps.

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