Trouble in Redskins Park?

I agree with Schneed....go back to Gruden's comments at the end of the year ....

"we've had two first rounds picks since I've been here...one of them hasn't played a down and the other is a Guard"

Nope, no problem there!

I believe Bruce is the tie breaker...Gruden got extended & McLoughan is gone.
The Tie has been broken.

"Saint Scot" will be fine & I'm sure he was well paid for his services.

Time to move on people.

I come from an HR background. My experience in organizational structure says that what Schneed has said is true. I am familiar with organizational structure, and flowcharts, etc..

It seems to me that Scott M overstepped his role by getting directly involved with the players. I have a feeling that it was not a one time incident, but rather several things that Scott did on his own, that i think Allen / Gruden were not aware / ok with.

In terms of Organizational flow - If Scott M reported to Allen, then nothing that he does in his day to day operations should be done without Allen either knowing about it or being okay with it. Anything outside that line of what Bruce / Jay are ok with him doing is grounds for reprimanding, and if that kind of thing continues, it is grounds for termination.

I don't disagree that Gruden being the one to dislike him stepping out of bounds is one logical conclusion, and let's say, based on this article, the only logical conclusion. Without knowing the source of this information, do you really believe it true when Schneed calls someone a moron for reserving judgment?

I don't disagree that Gruden being the one to dislike him stepping out of bounds is one logical conclusion, and let's say, based on this article, the only logical conclusion. Without knowing the source of this information, do you really believe it true when Schneed calls someone a moron for reserving judgment?

For someone to reserve judgment, I would say you either don't know how leadership works, or you don't understand Jay Gruden's personality type.

Either your thinking is limited or your knowledge of your team/coach is limited.

For someone to reserve judgment, I would say you either don't know how leadership works, or you don't understand Jay Gruden's personality type.

Either your thinking is limited or your knowledge of your team/coach is limited.

I don't claim to have some close understanding of our coaches personality types. That is impressive that you do, may I ask how?

I find reserving judgement until I know the full story from all sides is a vital part of leadership. That you don't is more reason to not give credence to your perspective honestly.

I agree with Schneed....go back to Gruden's comments at the end of the year ....

"we've had two first rounds picks since I've been here...one of them hasn't played a down and the other is a Guard"

Nope, no problem there!

I believe Bruce is the tie breaker...Gruden got extended & McLoughan is gone.
The Tie has been broken.

"Saint Scot" will be fine & I'm sure he was well paid for his services.

Time to move on people.

Exactly. And I saw that press conference as it was streamed by the team. He didn't just say those words, he said it with a slight hand flip, shrug, and eye roll. It was painfully obvious that he has a beef with the way McC did his job.

Using that comment, can you draw the definitive conclusion that Gruden was pissed about McC speaking to a player about on field conduct? Not on that comment alone, but it's yet another sign of many that Gruden has a strong vision, has a clear understanding of roles, and has a strong understanding of what it takes to win. He's not patient - he doesn't want to hear that a guard picked high is the way to win in the NFL.

When you put it all together, if you know anything about reading people and their personality types, it's easy to see that if you get in Jay Gruden's kitchen he's going to chase you out like a junkyard dog.

I agree with Schneed....go back to Gruden's comments at the end of the year ....

"we've had two first rounds picks since I've been here...one of them hasn't played a down and the other is a Guard"

Nope, no problem there!

I believe Bruce is the tie breaker...Gruden got extended & McLoughan is gone.
The Tie has been broken.

"Saint Scot" will be fine & I'm sure he was well paid for his services.

Time to move on people.

I forgot about that. I feel like he's said something else earlier in the season that raised eyebrows.

And Cousins did yell in Scots face.

He really may have just not been a good fit.

I don't claim to have some close understanding of our coaches personality types. That is impressive that you do, may I ask how?

I find reserving judgement until I know the full story from all sides is a vital part of leadership. That you don't is more reason to not give credence to your perspective honestly.

When you hire somebody and you've determined that the resume is sufficient that you think it's worth your time to interview an applicant, do you gain access to the whole story on that person, or do you get an hour to size them up and a few reference phone calls?

You have to read them, assess personality, disposition, fit, and make a call. I'm exceptionally talented at it.

Dismiss it if you want but I've got a read on Gruden. Very confident in my assessment.

Exactly. And I saw that press conference as it was streamed by the team. He didn't just say those words, he said it with a slight hand flip, shrug, and eye roll. It was painfully obvious that he has a beef with the way McC did his job.

Using that comment, can you draw the definitive conclusion that Gruden was pissed about McC speaking to a player about on field conduct? Not on that comment alone, but it's yet another sign of many that Gruden has a strong vision, has a clear understanding of roles, and has a strong understanding of what it takes to win. He's not patient - he doesn't want to hear that a guard picked highbis the way to win in the NFL.

When you put it all together, if you know anything about reading people and their personality types, it's easy to see that if you get in Jay Gruden's kitchen he's going to chase you out like a junkyard dog.

This is the last I'll say, but this is really what I am reacting too. Bangers input was informative and intriguing. He didn't act like a dick and talk down to people.
This post of yours was going well and then you throw in "if you know anything about..." I mean is that really necessary? Be helpful and give valuable arguments that contribute to the collective understanding. Your opinion can be valid without you being critical and insulting or patting yourself on the back.

This is the last I'll say, but this is really what I am reacting too. Bangers input was informative and intriguing. He didn't act like a dick and talk down to people.
This post of yours was going well and then you throw in "if you know anything about..." I mean is that really necessary? Be helpful and give valuable arguments that contribute to the collective understanding. Your opinion can be valid without you being critical and insulting or patting yourself on the back.

My opinion is always valid. Sorry you're not a fan of my delivery. Your thinking is strong and you should post more.

My opinion is always valid. Sorry you're not a fan of my delivery. Your thinking is strong and you should post more.

Fair enough. Thanks!