Trouble in Redskins Park?

Scot not attending the combine was a mutual decision between he and Bruce. He was effectively done here already...

not from what i've read . . . he and his agent were telling the team a week prior that he would be there . . . promising he would . . . and he didn't show up . . . saying he would be back at the office the next week, then still didn't show up

Once again... a lot of input goes into putting together the draft/free agency plan, McC didn't sit down and scratch everything out himself. It was a team effort so that's why they are following the plan.

This goes with the mindset of Redskins fans wanting to always pin the consequences (positive or negative) on a single person.

I'm not gonna sit here and question whether some of these posts are directed at me, if you are gonna call me out just do it.

This is all I am asking: If McC had been drinking on the job for an extended period of time why did they not make a plan and stick with it? Clearly he was a weakness that needed to be addressed, why did they do in the haphazard way of firing him during free agency? It wasn't like they saw him having 1 beer on the job and decided he had to leave immediately. Who was the last GM fired during free agency not named McCloughan? Shit, the Seahawks and 49ers knew he had a drinking problem and they still didn't end up with the mess we have now.

I'm not gonna sit here and question whether some of these posts are directed at me, if you are gonna call me out just do it.

This is all I am asking: If McC had been drinking on the job for an extended period of time why did they not make a plan and stick with it? Clearly he was a weakness that needed to be addressed, why did they do in the haphazard way of firing him during free agency? It wasn't like they saw him having 1 beer on the job and decided he had to leave immediately. Who was the last GM fired during free agency not named McCloughan? Shit, the Seahawks and 49ers knew he had a drinking problem and they still didn't end up with the mess we have now.

It's all speculation at this point. Maybe the death of his mom, even at 100, did throw him deeper than is being acknowledged. Maybe the team hoped to get through FA, and maybe even the draft, but when he missed both the combine and the start of FA, they felt they had to act. Maybe the darkest reports of smears and jealousy by BA are in fact the actual reason.

We may not know for several months/years. It's a shame because he was a fan favorite, and in that respect, maybe they had to let the fans see him miss both the combine and FA in order not to have a fan revolt (even doing it with him missing has cracked that door open).

The truth is that an organization that didn't repeatedly step on it's dick would a) be getting the benefit of the doubt and b) probably not even be in this situation.

Plus, regardless of the actual specifics of the situation I don't see how anyone can even remotely defend the team's handling of the situation. From the outside, which is all we have to go on and all that matters perception-wise, this looks like an utter and complete failure of the team to operate in even something resembling a professional manner. Again

I'm not gonna sit here and question whether some of these posts are directed at me, if you are gonna call me out just do it.

This is all I am asking: If McC had been drinking on the job for an extended period of time why did they not make a plan and stick with it? Clearly he was a weakness that needed to be addressed, why did they do in the haphazard way of firing him during free agency? It wasn't like they saw him having 1 beer on the job and decided he had to leave immediately. Who was the last GM fired during free agency not named McCloughan? Shit, the Seahawks and 49ers knew he had a drinking problem and they still didn't end up with the mess we have now.

You don't see the Machiavellian logic in letting him go at the start of free agency? The drinking wasn't the reason for dismissal, the drinking was the excuse.

At the start of free agency you've got the guy's thinking on free agents and you've got his draft board mostly done. You take that information and you:

a) execute on the free agent plans, knowing that you Bruce Allen could not have come up with a better one on your own, you roll with McCloughan's and take credit for it since he's gone at the time the pen hits the paper on those free agent contracts

b) in parallel, hand your draft board to Jay and Doug Williams and say OK go work off this, and interview the players, and tweak this board based on what you think. Go into the April draft executing a McCloughan draft board with input from Jay and Doug. You, Bruce Allen, get the credit because McCloughan is gone, and you're the one in charge.

c) do all the talking to the media so that all of the screw ups can be blamed on McCloughan, and so that you can take personal credit for all the good stuff.

d) find a new GM to put in place in May, following the draft, and go into the next season with a clean slate.

I don't know what we're arguing about here. McCloughan wasn't fired for drinking, does anybody really think that? Nobody here is arguing that. McCloughan was fired because he wasn't a yes man and Bruce Allen is a Machiavellian dickhead. Drinking was the built in excuse to fire McC for cause whenever they wanted.

Plus, regardless of the actual specifics of the situation I don't see how anyone can even remotely defend the team's handling of the situation. From the outside, which is all we have to go on and all that matters perception-wise, this looks like an utter and complete failure of the team to operate in even something resembling a professional manner. Again

Who is defending the team?? I feel like we're talking in circles.

Nobody in the last five pages has defended the team. They're indefensible.

I think what you're taking as defending the team is really just several posters who are the types that look forward, not backward. I'm like that myself. Bruce Allen is a piece of shit, but McCloughan is gone, history, spilled milk. I don't cry over it. I'm more interested in what happens next with Cousins, who runs our draft board, and who gets the next GM job.

Scot not attending the combine was a mutual decision between he and Bruce. He was effectively done here already...

Pretty much, though probably much more Bruce's decision than Scot's.

Not to make light of it, but how much must it suck for Scot to see Bruce drink as much as he does and be able to "handle his alcohol" while Scot has to forever battle demons and perceptions

Pretty much, though probably much more Bruce's decision than Scot's.

Not to make light of it, but how much must it suck for Scot to see Bruce drink as much as he does and be able to "handle his alcohol" while Scot has to forever battle demons and perceptions


Is there a vice versa of how can Bruce sit there and see a drunk with such an ability to build superbowl contending/winning personnel with 2 different clubs but yet battle his own Front office perceptions(clown show/dumpster fire) built around McNabb/RG3 trades and salary dumps which resulted in crippling penalties (Haynesworth)? That has to suck for Bruce...and Dan (drinking bro)