Redskins promote Greg Manusky to defensive coordinator

This shows 2 things... It was a Gruden driven decision and if it doesn't work Gruden's head is on the chopping block.

I think some of the comments on this issue on NFL.com and ESPN might have hit the head on the nail. With the uncertainty of Gruden/Cousins the gig might very well be only for one year, thus none of the big names were really that interested. Job security is the name of the game anywhere. Gruden and Kirk should have been extended for continuity's sake. I think Snyder just trapped the franchise into hiring second hand coaches. Once Gruden is gone it is back to square one. Nobody wants to work here. What we did to Shanny was terrible in hindsight.

I guess franchise KC and plan for a full rebuild in 2018.

Seriously deflating move.

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I was spot on. Being a former Redskin had something to do with it.

It's ludicrous to think anybody would instantly make this D better with the current roster.

Nobody thinks that. The big question is why didn't we get a proven winner. My previous post is what I am all about. My first post on the subject said I am more than willing to give the guy a shot. It will take 2 years minimum to get a top D created. The concern should be why we can't draw top talent or lose that talent. The uncertainty that seems to always hang over the head of our HC might be scaring folks off. By hedging our bets we might have screwed ourselves just as badly or actually worse off than if we pulled the trigger and extended Kirk and Gruden beforehand.

I think some of the comments on this issue on NFL.com and ESPN might have hit the head on the nail. With the uncertainty of Gruden/Cousins the gig might very well be only for one year, thus none of the big names were really that interested. Job security is the name of the game anywhere. Gruden and Kirk should have been extended for continuity's sake. I think Snyder just trapped the franchise into hiring second hand coaches. Once Gruden is gone it is back to square one. Nobody wants to work here. What we did to Shanny was terrible in hindsight.

Nah, I think Bradley was the top target with Manusky being the fallback option all along. I honestly don't think it's about it not being a desirable job. Outside of a few teams in the league there's no such thing as job security beyond 2-3 years.

I think some of the comments on this issue on NFL.com and ESPN might have hit the head on the nail. With the uncertainty of Gruden/Cousins the gig might very well be only for one year, thus none of the big names were really that interested. Job security is the name of the game anywhere. Gruden and Kirk should have been extended for continuity's sake. I think Snyder just trapped the franchise into hiring second hand coaches. Once Gruden is gone it is back to square one. Nobody wants to work here. What we did to Shanny was terrible in hindsight.
Its not on Snyder. Its on Gruden for hiring Barry in the first place when good DCs were available

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Nah, I think Bradley was the top target with Manusky being the fallback option all along. I honestly don't think it's about it not being a desirable job. Outside of a few teams in the league there's no such thing as job security beyond 2-3 years.

I can go for that, but still you had Pettine and co on the table. Manusky was in similar situations with not a whole lot of talent at his previous DC gigs, but damn, get a stud if you can get one. There is no cap for coaches. I am glad the players like him and I hope he is more aggressive. I am not in this is terrible camp, just is unsettling that this might mean nobody of higher quality wants to work for us

Hiring Manusky is like spending hours online looking at restaurants to go to, then just saying fuck it, and making a TV dinner.

First link above from Bangee7 in the other thread. Both links describe in detail how bad his defenses were and why he was fired from his past two gigs.

Horrible move. It explains our worst fears -- we got the equivalent of Joe Barry - just a guy with a horrible track record of bad defenses. As has been said, it's certainly possible the good D candidates said no because of job security (ie. too much risk of Gruden getting fired in 2 years & having only 1-2 years in the role). But it's ludicrous to believe Manusky makes our D competitive. Best case scenario is Scott McC drafts well / gets good FA players, which automatically improve the defensive play despite Manusky / not because of him.

Barry was 32nd in both yards and points in his two years as a coordinator before he came here. You could see failure coming from a mile away. At least Manusky has had some competent defenses in other stops. Plus he has worked with McCloughan. Kind of an eh hire to me, but there's room for optimism unlike when Barry was hired

I'll give him a chance, but this is disappointing to say the least

Give Greg a year and some talent. They must sign mid-level free agents on defense CB, S and LB. Then draft defense.

Must play a 4-3.... Kerrigan, Smith, and Murphy are not OLBs. And they have no NT