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DYoungJelly 01-24-2017, 02:26 PM I think it was mainly communication problems - guys were just constantly in the wrong spot.
I've heard 2 interviews by Manusky since the hire and he has harped on improving communication in both.
When asked pointedly on 980 what will be the difference this year, he said communication.
calia 01-24-2017, 02:37 PM Is the criticism of communication also somewhat a criticism of Compton? He's the QB of the defense. I like the guy's attitude and motor, but he's not a star, and I do not have a read on whether communications/reads is a strength or weakness. But this makes it seem a weakness.
Schneed10 01-24-2017, 03:13 PM Is the criticism of communication also somewhat a criticism of Compton? He's the QB of the defense. I like the guy's attitude and motor, but he's not a star, and I do not have a read on whether communications/reads is a strength or weakness. But this makes it seem a weakness.
I thought Compton was well regarded in this vein. I thought the communication issues were more between safety and corner than anybody else.
You had guys playing outside leverage, which clearly indicates they expect help to the inside but it wasn't there. Or playing underneath expecting help over the top and it wasn't there.
I'm reminded of the deep ball over Whitner's head where Norman was trailing in an underneath look. But Whitner was a dolt and let the guy get way behind him.
Also, Whitner. He was a problem. Manusky should have just said communication, and no Whitner.
metalskins 01-24-2017, 05:04 PM Yeah, I mean, Compton can tell them where to line up and such, I'm not sure if he communicates the coverage of the secondary per se. I'm sure he does to an extent, but like Schneed says, there was definitely a HUGE issue with communication in the secondary. I have never seen a secondary so lost and out of position in my entire life.
DYoungJelly 01-24-2017, 07:08 PM I thought the communication issues were more between safety and corner than anybody else.
I agree 100% but I believe there are deeper communications issues than just between the players.
I believe we can read the tea leaves a bit here, but it is (OMG) speculation without a source.
In the days after Joe Barry was fired, Cooley and Sheehan discussed multiple times about the calls coming in late from Barry to the players on the field. Cooley specifically said he heard criticism of Barry coming out of Redskins park that Barry was waiting till the last possible moment to make the defensive call to try to get a better look at what the offense was doing, rather than just basing it on the offensive personnel.
Cooley said he believed most of the pointing and yelling among players right before the snap was in part due to the calls coming in late because Barry was trying to make the perfect call rather than just a good call.
All that being said he placed the bulk of the blame on the players.
I sort of buried this in my mind till I heard one of Manusky's interviews yesterday, I can't remember if it was on Inside the Locker Room or Redskins Nation, but he said something to the effect of he is not going to be able to predict the offensive play to be in the perfect defense all the time, but everybody is going to be on the same page. (Not an exact quote, just a summation of the meaning)
I believe Cooley's discussion combined with Manusky's statement is an indicator of communication issues between the players and coaches during the games.
REDSKINS4ever 01-24-2017, 10:27 PM Here's an interesting story about Greg Manusky.....
Tony Dungy influenced Greg Manusky's decision to coach - Washington Redskins Blog- ESPN (http://www.espn.com/blog/washington-redskins/post/_/id/29927/tony-dungy-influenced-greg-manuskys-decision-to-coach)
EARTHQUAKE2689 01-24-2017, 11:22 PM I wholeheartedly agree with this. Breeland is a lot better than he played this year. I think it was mainly communication problems - guys were just constantly in the wrong spot.
But yeah, safety's got to get better. McCloughan sees it I'm sure. He may not be willing to pile a bunch of money into that position but I'd be willing to bet he comes away with a safety in rounds 1, 2, or 3.
I think he wants the money to go to the line.
Been lookikg at the DL in FA. Inlike Dontari Poe for the right amount money. Someone to clog the gap who wont get tired after one play Terrance Knighton style
FrenchSkin 01-25-2017, 04:41 AM In the days after Joe Barry was fired, Cooley and Sheehan discussed multiple times about the calls coming in late from Barry to the players on the field. Cooley specifically said he heard criticism of Barry coming out of Redskins park that Barry was waiting till the last possible moment to make the defensive call to try to get a better look at what the offense was doing, rather than just basing it on the offensive personnel.
Cooley said he believed most of the pointing and yelling among players right before the snap was in part due to the calls coming in late because Barry was trying to make the perfect call rather than just a good call.
All that being said he placed the bulk of the blame on the players.
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I remember perfectly Cooley saying that.
A few days ago he also made a good point, imo, saying the promotion from within was good from an accountability standpoint.
Like, players who didn't buy into the system, didn't play what they were supposed to play, and brought a bad energy into the locker room (in the segment you talked about he pointed out the DB room which seemed to be an awful mess) do not get a free card.
A new guy coming in wouldn't know about the player's attitude from last year. Manusky will be able to say "you acted like a selfish child last year, you better get your shit together under my watch". Well, he has to be able to do that.
Defensewins 01-25-2017, 11:02 AM Hiring Manusky is a real head scratcher.
Does not fit the standards I was looking for, a proven NFL defensive coordinator.
Are we that bad to work for that we could not hire someone proven?
I will be highly disappointed if we spin our wheels for he next year of two.
We need to make improvements on both sides of the ball. Staying the same or regressing is a big concern of mine. Give me some visible and measurable improvement please. That is all I ask.
Chico23231 01-25-2017, 11:09 AM Hiring Manusky is a real head scratcher.
Does not fit the standards I was looking for, a proven NFL defensive coordinator.
Are we that bad to work for that we could not hire someone proven?
I will be highly disappointed if we spin our wheels for he next year of two.
We need to make improvements on both sides of the ball. Staying the same or regressing is a big concern of mine. Give me some visible and measurable improvement please. That is all I ask.
tough to disagree, I think his success on 3rd downs and he developed some decent talent within the front 7 is a positive. Positive is knowledge of the staff and he seems to have some defensive players behind him is a major plus. Im glad he stated stopping the run is his focus.
But whats gonna piss me off more is if we walk out in the first game next year with Ricky-jean, Ziggy and Wil Compton as starters. This shit needs to end now. Hopefully JG can stay healthy and push Preston Smith
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