What would it take?


CRedskinsRule
01-19-2017, 12:59 PM
The recount thread has become less about the recounts since it's over. So how about a new question. For those who are anti-Trump, what would it take - or what would you need to see in the first 180 days to bring you to his side. Obviously some parts of his agenda will never be supported by democrats, but what could happen that would make his presidency more palatable then the last 4 years of Bush.

For the Trumpeters, what would it take, or what could he do in the 180 days to shake your faith, and specifically, what legislation could be passed or not passed that would make you buy in to the Trump's a charlatan argument.

My big 3 -
1) failing to repeal the Affordable Care Act - while a replace option at some point could be added, the repeal is the higher priority to me. For my family, I would be content going back to the health care of the past, at least I could afford that. (selfish bastard that I am that I want to be able to cover myself and my kids first).

2) making a unjustified deal with Russia. I don't think we should be Ukraine's protector, but we definitely should be committed to NATO. Any deal that trades any NATO member's security for Russian cooperation would break my faith in him.

3) a lack of efforts that specifically target improving the life of urban US cities. Both parties ignore the real needs of these populations, the democrats take them for granted, and republicans see them as unswerving opponents. I want to see Trump move beyond that dilemna.

the least important thing that Trump promised - the wall. If it's built fine, if not, make immigration attainable, deport criminals here illegally and call it a job well done.

What are your big 3?

Schneed10
01-19-2017, 01:11 PM
I'm an anti-Trump republican, a #NeverTrump guy if you will.

To win me over:

1) bring back the jobs in the manufacturing sector in the US without resulting in a CPI increase much different from what we've been experiencing for the last 20 years.

2) stronger commitment to NATO and show an ability to influence Russia's actions. Getting them to withdraw their forces massed at the border of the Baltic states would be a good start.

3) Bring down prescription drug prices in the US

CRedskins I could talk all day about the repeal of Obamacare and why going back to the 'old' healthcare is like trying to put the toothpaste back in the tube. There are countless reasons why repealing Obamacare will not help make your healthcare coverage more affordable. But that's another thread.

punch it in
01-19-2017, 01:14 PM
Feeling kind of left out here since the question is for the trumpeters.
SAD!
Nevermind just saw the first question.
GLAD!

punch it in
01-19-2017, 01:18 PM
To answer your question a shit ton! Lol.
Let me start with the basic fundamentals of being a human being.
1) stop the childish bickering and insults at every single entity or person that ever said anything negative about you. If he were on this site he would be warriorz and banned because he cannot handle criticism of his ideas.
2) take the god damned environmental issues somewhat seriously for christ sake.
3) speak in a manner in which i want my children to speak in.

Chico23231
01-19-2017, 01:21 PM
My whole thing with Obamacare is you cant repeal it unless the GOP comes back with a better plan....one that has medium and small business more in mind.

Schneed10
01-19-2017, 01:23 PM
Another one to the basic human decency list: don't be so painful to watch and listen to that it causes millions of Americans to tune you out.

I wasn't a fan of Obama's policies but he emoted, he listened, he acknowledged when the other side had a point, and he was not obnoxious. I get concerned with the long term consequences if enough people hate listening to the president sooo much that they decide to check out of the civics process.

By the way I would have had the exact same concern with Hillary, maybe even more so.

punch it in
01-19-2017, 01:30 PM
Another one to the basic human decency list: don't be so painful to watch and listen to that it causes millions of Americans to tune you out.



I wasn't a fan of Obama's policies but he emoted, he listened, he acknowledged when the other side had a point, and he was not obnoxious. I get concerned with the long term consequences if enough people hate listening to the president sooo much that they decide to check out of the civics process.



By the way I would have had the exact same concern with Hillary, maybe even more so.



Definitely not more so. Lol. But i hear you. I voted for Bernie in the primary for the record.

Schneed10
01-19-2017, 01:45 PM
Hillary always sounded like she was lecturing. I dreaded having to listen to her even though I voted for her. She was always somewhere between lecturing and straight up yelling at you.

Neither is very inspiring. It sucks, I've got two girls coming up, they're 10 and 7 now, so old enough to pay attention to the president's words. I'm afraid they'll hear Trump and just say to themselves why do I want to put myself through this?

Sigh.

CRedskinsRule
01-19-2017, 01:51 PM
Schneed you know your girls are listening more to you then Trump. Unless you or someone in there direct life is saying something.crazy (and I don't think you are) they are going to grow up believing in themselves. If you want to fear someone's influence you probably need to worry more how Disney is gonna convince them that you and all grown ups are stupid.

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Schneed10
01-19-2017, 02:02 PM
I don't fear that they'll be negatively influenced by anything a president has to say, my fear is that the president will come across as so obnoxious that they won't want to listen to him (or her).

At this age you just want your kids to be interested in learning more about the process - what the president does, how the checks and balances work, etc. But if they can't stand listening to him then it increases the chances that they'll show little interest. I think that's a shame.

It's a criticism of style, not substance, and it's independent of party or position.

But you're right, my wife and I steer them much more greatly than anybody else. I may have to work a little harder to get them to listen to his words.

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