What would it take?

So so funny that Russia is now some sort of issue when for most of the Obama presidency, Putin outmaneuvered US interest and Obama personally all over the globe.

Where was the outrage over Crimea, Ukraine, hacking and leaking across the globe, giving Snowden sanctuary, major arms deals with Iran, military action in Syria against US back troops which turned the tide where Assad is winning that war, etc.

???? You were ok with that???

You don't have to go back to any of those. From the link that mooby posted. Maybe all titles nowadays should be done like the old Sherman and Peabody cartoons where they had two titles, but in this case one gives the pro-trump slant and one gives the anti-trump slant so it would be

Russia Deploys Missile, Violating Treaty and Challenging Trump or After Ignoring Treaty Ban, Russians Give Last Snub to Obama

makes for longer titles, but maybe lets readers see more views

The ground-launched cruise missile at the center of American concerns is one that the Obama administration said in 2014 had been tested in violation of a 1987 treaty that bans American and Russian intermediate-range missiles based on land.

The Obama administration had sought to persuade the Russians to correct the violation while the missile was still in the test phase. Instead, the Russians have moved ahead with the system, deploying a fully operational unit.

This wasn't about challenging Trump, it was about impotent action by Pres Obama's administration for the last 4 years. The line "had sought to persuade" literally has to make you laugh and cry at the same time. It's probably just poor writing, but you can't seek to persuade a bully, well you can but it's usually by giving him a bloody nose, not by reasoned discussion.

You don't have to go back to any of those. From the link that mooby posted. Maybe all titles nowadays should be done like the old Sherman and Peabody cartoons where they had two titles, but in this case one gives the pro-trump slant and one gives the anti-trump slant so it would be

Russia Deploys Missile, Violating Treaty and Challenging Trump or After Ignoring Treaty Ban, Russians Give Last Snub to Obama

makes for longer titles, but maybe lets readers see more views



This wasn't about challenging Trump, it was about impotent action by Pres Obama's administration for the last 4 years. The line "had sought to persuade" literally has to make you laugh and cry at the same time. It's probably just poor writing, but you can't seek to persuade a bully, well you can but it's usually by giving him a bloody nose, not by reasoned discussion.


Eight years ago I was trying to understand the outcry from the Bush people and being told it's Obama's fault.Now you got what you wanted Trump,I don't give a rats ass if Hillary was worse or Obama did this or that. Trump has had four weeks and he has fucked it up.We need to stop with Obama and Hillary and concentrate on the ass in the office now.

Eight years ago I was trying to understand the outcry from the Bush people and being told it's Obama's fault.Now you got what you wanted Trump,I don't give a rats ass if Hillary was worse or Obama did this or that. Trump has had four weeks and he has fucked it up.We need to stop with Obama and Hillary and concentrate on the ass in the office now.

hilarious. The whole article happened before Trump took office. Yes he needs to get a handle on it, but sorry geopolitical standoffs don't resolve the day the US puts a new president in. I will make this promise to the board - by the end of this year, you will not hear me say "Obama left {add subject here} in {add condition here} so it's not Trump's fault". Most likely I will turn to the Republican congress and blame them but after 9 months (randomly chosen time frame less then a year more than 6 months) Trump will certainly bear the burden of what is going on in the country and in the world.

and G1 for you to remain intellectually honest with your expressed statement, I guess that means that, in your eyes, all positive economic news from Jan 20th goes squarely on Trump's positive balance sheet?

I need to find the article where this neutral economist predicted that we would definitely see a bit of an economic boom if Trump got elected. He also predicted that if he does proceed with his promises we'll see a sharp drop-off after a year or two. I need to find it. Was a really good article, but some of the stuff was way over my head.

I need to find the article where this neutral economist predicted that we would definitely see a bit of an economic boom if Trump got elected. He also predicted that if he does proceed with his promises we'll see a sharp drop-off after a year or two. I need to find it. Was a really good article, but some of the stuff was way over my head.

I think its likely we will see a recession soon, because, well, they happen regularly:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_recessions_in_the_United_States

Im thinking if it happens this coming time its gonna be because of China's influence of their own changing economy and how we are depending on cheap consumer goods.

While Im not fully behind Dodd-Frank, it does do some good things...we are more prepared than ever.

So so funny that Russia is now some sort of issue when for most of the Obama presidency, Putin outmaneuvered US interest and Obama personally all over the globe.

Where was the outrage over Crimea, Ukraine, hacking and leaking across the globe, giving Snowden sanctuary, major arms deals with Iran, military action in Syria against US back troops which turned the tide where Assad is winning that war, etc.

???? You were ok with that???



Just curious how you think Putin outmaneuvered Obama and the US? Also, what exactly were you looking for in response to counter these Russian moves?

I keep hearing this repeated so I want a genuine answer.

Just curious how you think Putin outmaneuvered Obama and the US? Also, what exactly were you looking for in response to counter these Russian moves?

I keep hearing this repeated so I want a genuine answer.

You lead. That's how you handle it.

In most case he sat on his hands. Its just funny now why Russia is an issue when before the media and country never questioned anything. Funny how that hypocrisy works.


I listed the above outmaneuvering...Syria and Eastern Europe mostly. But political influence in the Middle east is just shocking. Did you hear, that Turkey is cuddling up with Russia now? Do you know how important Turkey is in that region?

He beat poor Obama down just bout everywhere. There was an world wide ass-kicking tour.

You lead. That's how you handle it.

In most case he sat on his hands. Its just funny now why Russia is an issue when before the media and country never questioned anything. Funny how that hypocrisy works.


I listed the above outmaneuvering...Syria and Eastern Europe mostly. But political influence in the Middle east is just shocking. Did you hear, that Turkey is cuddling up with Russia now? Do you know how important Turkey is in that region?

He beat poor Obama down just bout everywhere. There was an world wide ass-kicking tour.


You straight avoided the answer. I'll ask it again.


In what ways do you think Putin outmaneuvered Obama and the US? Also, what exactly were you looking for in response to counter these Russian moves?

Obama definitely had his failings, and maybe I'm totally off-base here, but I think the big concern with Russia is it seems like many parts of the Trump administration have some deep ties with a country that traditionally hasn't been an ally.

You straight avoided the answer. I'll ask it again.


In what ways do you think Putin outmaneuvered Obama and the US? Also, what exactly were you looking for in response to counter these Russian moves?

I thought my response and my previous post were clear. If not, here some folks from your side who actually sum it up nicely:

How Putin Outmaneuvered Obama in Syria and Ukraine | The Huffington Post (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/leila-hudson/how-putin-outmaneuvered-o_b_5210426.html)

This just speaks to Ukraine and Syria.




Like I stated before, this Turkey and Iranian stuff is serious. You remember this?: https://www.wsj.com/articles/turkey-shoots-down-jet-near-syria-border-1448356509

Now that takes balls....could you imagine shooting down a Russian fighter? And they didn't apologize.....

And now Turkey is at the table with Russia forming bonds and making deals...interesting. Shooting down a plane, making a statement...a serious one and now they are bargaining, forming agendas, policy....

Interesting, huh?