What would it take?

We spent 8years on ObamaCare, which basically was opposed by about half the country (not arguing the exact numbers) and now a new administration is going to do it's best to repeal it. We had a pipeline running half across the country that Pres Obama was willing to let sit as a waste of metal, we built a bridge just for the sake of having a bridge. I don't know about how much will get stuck in eminent domain questions, but honestly, if we put more effort to make it work, then bicker about it, i believe we certainly could build it and be done within 6 years.

Like I said I don't know eminent domain ins and outs, but suppose you build it, and as a land owner your choice is, either fight the government's right to build it, and have your land be one of the prime locations for any illegal traffic that wants to cross into the US, or agree to the eminent domain request, and have a safer southern end to your property. Yes it's bully pulpit type request of use, but most land owners, in my mind are going to go with a "free" border on their land, rather than become an open invite to criminals.
Maybe it will be less impactful than not, but a couple things I think can be said clearly and those are:
1) coupled with better border enforcement/immigration policy it would be an added deterrent
2) if it takes 3 years to be built, that would be good hardworking jobs for US citizens.
3) done right, it could be a physical testament to US abilities, like the Panama Canal.

Overall the country is as satisfied with Trump as they were with Obama, but now the Democrats get to be the dissatisfied group.



No,poll or no poll.It's not even close.If you honestly think this country is the same now as when Obama was President and the the country is going through the same things ,then there is just no hope for you.It's not Democrats don't you get that,it's everyone but Trump supporters.Republicans are as pissed off as other groups but more and more republicans are coming out and complaining about Trump ,his people and his polocies.

No,poll or no poll.It's not even close.If you honestly think this country is the same now as when Obama was President and the the country is going through the same things ,then there is just no hope for you.It's not Democrats don't you get that,it's everyone but Trump supporters.Republicans are as pissed off as other groups but more and more republicans are coming out and complaining about Trump ,his people and his polocies.
We will see. I was just saying that the Gallup poll just out showed something I thought was interesting in the extreme flip in sentiment between rep and dems.

Its been less then one month and so far all he has been doing is checking off the things he promised and spoke about in the campaign. I do think political denizens on both sides didn't really believe he would do what he campaigned to do, but his voters/supporters see him working at it even as the establishment drags its collective feet.

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We will see. I was just saying that the Gallup poll just out showed something I thought was interesting in the extreme flip in sentiment between rep and dems.

..... I do think political denizens on both sides didn't really believe he would do what he campaigned to do, but his voters/supporters see him working at it even as the establishment drags its collective feet.



I believed it and what I believed is happening.Donald Trump is taking down this nation with his ignorance.The "establishment"is not dragging it's feet ,it's trying to save the country from collapsing in spite of Trump.

Whar does "Taking it down" mean to you?

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If somehow a super-villian comes to this Earth and says, "I'm going kill all your first born." and he does it, I guess I'd have to give him credit for doing what he said.

Drumpf is doing what he said he would do, my problem is the stuff he IS doing are his half-baked ideas.

1) Repeal Obamacare? Sure, HAVE A FUCKING PLAN. Regardless of the positives and negatives, this country needed some kind of system. As imperfect as it is, it was a start. He started trying to chip away at it with zero plan and people who were benefiting by it might suffer. That's bad.

2) Muslim ban. I remember when he said, "Let's stop all these Muslims from coming in until we can figure out what's going on." Something to that effect. Another half-baked idea. You want to do it? Fine. Be consistent. It's just a random smattering of countries he chose. Roll-out was a mess. I think vetting is perfectly fine, but it's like he's just throwing shit at the wall and saying, "Look! I'm doing it!"

3) The wall. I haven't seen any plans or heard a proposed budget, but this is the most ridiculous idea of them all. I'm 100% behind border security. Maybe once I hear the actual "plan" I might change my mind, but I'm looking at the proposed budget and this seems like the biggest waste of money in tax-payer history. Again, likely to be ineffective. Maybe I just have this giant concrete eye-sore in my mind and I will admit if I'm wrong (I'm obviously no engineer), but I just don't see how this would work. Jobs? I love jobs! You could give people jobs rolling the proverbial rock up the hill all day, and they could say, "Hey! We got a job though." In the end, I still think it's a waste of time, money, and more when we could be spending that budget on a lot more problems in this country.

Our infrastructure is aging and is awful. If Drumpf said he would put that money into that, I'd be 100% behind him.

Just because he's doing what he says doesn't mean they're good ideas in the first place.

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Just because he's doing what he says doesn't mean they're good ideas in the first place.

Fair enough that you don't like him or the ideas, but they are what he ran on, what won states that had gone for democrats for the last couple decades, and what he is going to do.

By the way, he did say he was going to invest in the infrastructure, and if he's keeping the rest of his campaign promises instead of playing nice with the politicos then I would expect him to keep that one too, but the democrats will have to actually play ball because the republicans will fight him on that one.

Immigration and border security are complex issues that demand more complex solutions than building a wall or banning certain people from coming here.

Immigration and border security are complex issues that demand more complex solutions than building a wall or banning certain people from coming here.
Agreed and yet both actions can easily be a part of the more complex solution instead of making a false suggestion that Trump is claiming either one of those are a magic bullet solution.

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Agreed and yet both actions can easily be a part of the more complex solution instead of making a false suggestion that Trump is claiming either one of those are a magic bullet solution.

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Problem is he's full of magic bullet solutions, I alone can fix things, I'll make us great again, etc. His words. It's hard to imagine there's much of a long term vision in any of his plans. I think he just wants to slap band-aids on everything, claim victory, and bask in the credit he feels he deserves.