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punch it in 02-03-2017, 02:18 PM I think we should take this time for a moment of silence for all those lives lost at Bowling Green. A go fund has been started for all the families affected by this tragedy. #NeverForget
https://www.bowlinggreenmassacrefund.com/
Best part is her excuse. I meant to say....stfu. You remembered something about bowling green something or the other and a terrorist attack, so you bring up the bowling green massacre. Wow. I thought the confusion about Frederick Douglass was bad but this takes the cake for this weeks show folks. Stay tuned for more amateur hour at the Apollo! As much as I enjoy the "entertainment", it's pretty God damned scary that these people are in charge of our country.
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Giantone 02-03-2017, 04:04 PM DAMN those" alternative facts"!!!:laughing-
CRedskinsRule 02-03-2017, 05:12 PM CNN/ORC poll
(http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2017/images/02/03/rel2a.-.trump.pdf)
How well are things going in the country today -- (very well, fairly well), (pretty badly or very badly)?
results from the poll the year after election
2017 Jan 31 - Feb 2, 46% 53% Obama --> Trump
2013 Jan 14-15, 49% 51% Obama --> Obama
2009 Feb 18-19 21% 79% Bush --> Obama
2005 Jan 7-9 58 41 Bush-->Bush
2001 Feb 7-8 71 28 Clinton -->Bush
I can't imagine the country being at 71% positive anymore.
punch it in 02-03-2017, 05:19 PM CNN/ORC poll
(http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2017/images/02/03/rel2a.-.trump.pdf)
How well are things going in the country today -- (very well, fairly well), (pretty badly or very badly)?
results from the poll the year after election
2017 Jan 31 - Feb 2, 46% 53% Obama --> Trump
2013 Jan 14-15, 49% 51% Obama --> Obama
2009 Feb 18-19 21% 79% Bush --> Obama
2005 Jan 7-9 58 41 Bush-->Bush
2001 Feb 7-8 71 28 Clinton -->Bush
I can't imagine the country being at 71% positive anymore.
R u reading that as the incumbent has something to do with those numbers so quickly or a result of the past potus? It appears as if Trump has raised the spirits of the voters the way that is laid out.
CRedskinsRule 02-03-2017, 05:21 PM I can't argue with much of what Uncle Bernie says here (https://www.yahoo.com/news/at-gathering-on-politics-of-love-sanders-warns-trump-could-start-a-war-201026254.html):
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And yet, he said, being in the majority is not enough. “Let me suggest to you, and some will disagree with me, that’s OK too. Let me suggest to you that what happened on November 8th, Trump’s victory, was not a victory for Trump or his ideology. It was a gross political failure of the Democratic Party.”
This won Sanders a partial standing ovation.
“Some people may disagree with me, but if you think that everybody who voted for Donald Trump is a racist or a sexist or a homophobe, you would be dead wrong,” Sanders said. Instead, he said, what happened is that “hardworking decent people” had a lot of questions about their lives, about long hours and poor wages and their declining standard of living and school debt and Wall Street destroying the economy.
“So Trump comes along, and Trump is, among many other qualities, a pathological liar. So bad that he practically has no ideology at all. Tomorrow he may come out for a single health care payer program, I don’t know. He doesn’t believe in anything. It’s just what sounds right at the moment,” Sanders said.
But what Trump did do, “if you listen carefully to what he said, he said, ‘I, Donald Trump, I’m going to take on the establishment,’” Sanders said.
He won because “there are people in this country who are hurting, and they are hurting terribly,” Sanders said. “And for years they looked to the Democratic Party, which at one time was the party of working people. And they looked and they looked and they looked and they got nothing in return, and out of desperation they turned to Mr. Trump.”
“All over this country there are people who are hurting, and our job is to communicate and talk to and stand up and fight with those people for a government that listens to them,” he said.
“It is always easy to come to beautiful conferences like this, where we look to our friends over here, friends over there, and we’re all in basic agreement,” he counseled. “It is a hell of a lot harder to start talking to people who have a worldview very different than yours. But that is exactly what we have to do.”
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Sanders encouraged conference attendees to run for office, especially school boards, city councils and state legislatures. “To people who don’t have confidence to run for office … I’m a member of the Senate. You should see some of the Senate. If you have any doubt about your ability to run for office, turn on C-SPAN,” he joked.
CRedskinsRule 02-03-2017, 05:26 PM R u reading that as the incumbent has something to do with those numbers so quickly or a result of the past potus? It appears as if Trump has raised the spirits of the voters the way that is laid out.
no, sorry I hate tables.
Thats the total positive and total negative in the country as close to the inauguration (but not before it) each time.
So in this year's case the country right now is at a 46 positive or very positive and 53 negative or very negative.
When Pres Obama took over from Pres Bush at the same time frame, the country was 21 positive, and 79 negative, and through his two terms he did bring it up and it has hovered around 50/50 through the last 8 years.
But after Clinton's 2 terms leading into Bush's first term, the country was 71% positive - those are days I miss, when not every story was a negative bashing the other side relentlessy.
punch it in 02-03-2017, 05:33 PM no, sorry I hate tables.
Thats the total positive and total negative in the country as close to the inauguration (but not before it) each time.
So in this year's case the country right now is at a 46 positive or very positive and 53 negative or very negative.
When Pres Obama took over from Pres Bush at the same time frame, the country was 21 positive, and 79 negative, and through his two terms he did bring it up and it has hovered around 50/50 through the last 8 years.
But after Clinton's 2 terms leading into Bush's first term, the country was 71% positive - those are days I miss, when not every story was a negative bashing the other side relentlessy.
Trump is a lightning rod, and he wants to be. For whatever reason. This time is different on every level. The bashing is no coincidence. His backers have his back at any cost, and his doubters look for every reason to doubt. Both sides need to take a deep breath and step back. However every time you think things are settling down he does something cra cra. Its like he craves the madness. I don't get it.
Giantone 02-03-2017, 07:38 PM So you agree. The media should wait for the facts, that's all Im asking.
The media is so corrupt that dumb people believe this stuff.
Just stop with the 'corrupt media BS",please you're smarter than that.
What facts exactly is it you want,tell me?Is it Kellyanne "alternative facts" or is the facts Donald Trump makes up in his head anytime something doesn't go his way.The media's job is to call out the politicians keep them honest ,Trumps screams fake news and you fall all over it ,Trump is a liar fact ,he's a thief ,fact and from what he has been doing the last two weeks he is a moron fact.
I asked before I will ask again....what media will you accept as factual,TV, print, radio....internet,what?
When it comes to us it is up to us to dissect what we are absorbing and use common sense ,now many Americans can't do that ...no argument but it doesn't make it "fake news".Tell me you honestly believed the story about Hillary and the kiddie porn in the pizza place?That was fake news and 95% of the public knew it.How many people are picking the Patriots and how many the Falcons,one will win.If I say the Patriots and the Falcons win is it fake news or was I wrong in my estimation?Chico I get it you like Trump and you know I don't but this fake news shit ,I really have more respect for you than that.No BS.
mooby 02-03-2017, 08:03 PM I can't argue with much of what Uncle Bernie says here (https://www.yahoo.com/news/at-gathering-on-politics-of-love-sanders-warns-trump-could-start-a-war-201026254.html):
This is a good quote. Thanks for sharing.
punch it in 02-04-2017, 07:57 PM no, sorry I hate tables.
Thats the total positive and total negative in the country as close to the inauguration (but not before it) each time.
So in this year's case the country right now is at a 46 positive or very positive and 53 negative or very negative.
When Pres Obama took over from Pres Bush at the same time frame, the country was 21 positive, and 79 negative, and through his two terms he did bring it up and it has hovered around 50/50 through the last 8 years.
But after Clinton's 2 terms leading into Bush's first term, the country was 71% positive - those are days I miss, when not every story was a negative bashing the other side relentlessy.
Gotcha.
Yeah well Trump and unity are like oil and water. We can stir and stir until our arms fall off but,.....
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