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Giantone 02-01-2017, 04:29 PM See, the GOP needed to put their foot down on this candidate selection.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/u-senate-confirms-former-exxon-ceo-secretary-state-200145344--finance.html
I'm not sure who is worse, this guy or Bannon.
I'm really surprised 2 Republicans voted no do Devos.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/two-republicans-wont-vote-trump-education-pick-devos-194138305.html
She has no business near our education system.
Agree!!!
mooby 02-01-2017, 05:36 PM Ive watched someone on NBC news say this wasn't true?
There is so much misinformation about the move...is it even a ban? nobody really knows.
Honestly, there is so much bullshit out there and folks are generally just making up stuff, write a bs article on the internet and pass it off as fact. The reason is the media doesn't fact check, basically whatever trump says just makeup whatever you need to go against it.
I'm basing this off the videos and posts on social media and reddit where green card holders are saying they are being denied entry at the airport in whatever ME country they are stuck in. Haven't seen anything on MSNBC yet about it.
mooby 02-01-2017, 06:12 PM So you agree. The media should wait for the facts, that's all Im asking.
The media is so corrupt that dumb people believe this stuff.
If the administration slips the facts in with a stream of bullshit, why put it on the media? It's ok to assign equal blame. I don't think there's any innocent party in this, from Trump to Congress or the media. Yes the media needs to do better vetting. Yes Trump should stop talking about unimportant shit like crowd sizes, losing the popular vote because of voter fraud (that has not a shred of evidence), etc. Maybe our politicians should work together to make things better for everyone rather than vote on party lines almost every single fucking time. But nah, if they do that then they wouldn't get reelected by the base that elected them in the first time. It's both goddamn sides too, when the dems have the majority it's always about pressing issues that they think are important. No wonder they lost the majority, because they forgot about middle class people just trying to make a living and raise a family, so they could focus on social issues and whatnot. This is why I hate politics, and I hate myself for getting so wrapped up in it. It's just bullshit. I can't name one thing they've done in the last 20 years that has single handedly made a major improvement in my quality of life.
CRedskinsRule 02-01-2017, 06:36 PM If the administration slips the facts in with a stream of bullshit, why put it on the media? It's ok to assign equal blame. I don't think there's any innocent party in this, from Trump to Congress or the media. Yes the media needs to do better vetting. Yes Trump should stop talking about unimportant shit like crowd sizes, losing the popular vote because of voter fraud (that has not a shred of evidence), etc. Maybe our politicians should work together to make things better for everyone rather than vote on party lines almost every single fucking time. But nah, if they do that then they wouldn't get reelected by the base that elected them in the first time. It's both goddamn sides too, when the dems have the majority it's always about pressing issues that they think are important. No wonder they lost the majority, because they forgot about middle class people just trying to make a living and raise a family, so they could focus on social issues and whatnot. This is why I hate politics, and I hate myself for getting so wrapped up in it. It's just bullshit. I can't name one thing they've done in the last 20 years that has single handedly made a major improvement in my quality of life.
come to the libertarian side -- we have brownies!!
Chico23231 02-01-2017, 06:54 PM See, the GOP needed to put their foot down on this candidate selection.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/u-senate-confirms-former-exxon-ceo-secretary-state-200145344--finance.html
I'm not sure who is worse, this guy or Bannon.
I'm really surprised 2 Republicans voted no do Devos.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/two-republicans-wont-vote-trump-education-pick-devos-194138305.html
She has no business near our education system.
I agree, she is fuckin terrible...she was the worst choice of the cabinet.
Chico23231 02-01-2017, 07:01 PM I'm basing this off the videos and posts on social media and reddit where green card holders are saying they are being denied entry at the airport in whatever ME country they are stuck in. Haven't seen anything on MSNBC yet about it.
I saw it Sunday on NBC...green cards were all good.
I'm fairly certain the president cannot order green cards to become invalid.
mooby 02-01-2017, 09:25 PM I saw it Sunday on NBC...green cards were all good.
I'm fairly certain the president cannot order green cards to become invalid.
I'm not saying Trump said throw the green card holders in too, idk the person/people responsible for it. I'm just saying that I saw social media/reddit posts from people with green cards and visas saying they were stopped at the airport. Not talking about the guy with the dead mother in Iraq either, I didn't read that story.
Edit: I realized I am getting this wrong, I am getting green card holders and people with visas mixed up. I saw something about green card holders but nothing concrete so I am most likely mistaking them for visa holders that were denied entry onto planes. If you want I will try to find the posts on reddit/social media where visa holders were denied entry.
Chico23231 02-01-2017, 09:38 PM I'm not saying Trump said throw the green card holders in too, idk the person/people responsible for it. I'm just saying that I saw social media/reddit posts from people with green cards and visas saying they were stopped at the airport. Not talking about the guy with the dead mother in Iraq either, I didn't read that story.
Edit: I realized I am getting this wrong, I am getting green card holders and people with visas mixed up. I saw something about green card holders but nothing concrete so I am most likely mistaking them for visa holders that were denied entry onto planes. If you want I will try to find the posts on reddit/social media where visa holders were denied entry.
Well first, this announcement of this whole deal was screwed up and poorly done...that can't be argued. But it's fairly reasonable to think the folks at the airport held some peeps because of bureaucracy bs and confusion. I mean airports today are worst than DMV...so that's not really surprising. The problem is people (pitchfork libs still pissed about the election) take this situation and say " hey the order applies to green card holder....omg the president is keeping green card holders out the country". Now, the irresponsibility of the media is to take this stuff on Reddit and publish it as fact.
SolidSnake84 02-02-2017, 07:05 AM One of the first things I learned during this election cycle was that the Democratic Party invented what we right now call "alternative facts".
One of the senior political correspondents wrote yesterday that most of the mess happening in the senate is just a means to try and defy trump, it has nothing to do with voting "right or wrong", but they are just protesting and trying to block his cabinet appointments just to mess with him. He also explained that once you get outside of the crazy liberals, most smart enough people acknowledge that the Democratic Party right now is putting up the final shouts of a dying resistance movement.
Hillary is to blame for much of it. Why would America elect Democratic Leaders again after Hillary's utter and total failure of a presidential campaign? To me the group has been irreparably damaged. Write off this talk of Hillary running again in 2020. No way the DNC puts her out there again
lol that's rich after we just saw 8 years of obstructionism towards Obama.
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