What would it take?

This administration is a train wreck in motion. What a cluster fuck these guys are. Absolutely shameful. Dictator Trump wants it his way or your out.


Fired: Trump dumps top lawyer who defied immigration order | Reuters (http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-immigration-idUSKBN15E1DE)


https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/30/us/politics/trump-immigration-ban-memo.html?smid=fb-nytimes&smtyp=cur&_r=0

This administration is a train wreck in motion. What a cluster fuck these guys are. Absolutely shameful. Dictator Trump wants it his way or your out.


Fired: Trump dumps top lawyer who defied immigration order | Reuters (http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-immigration-idUSKBN15E1DE)


https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/30/us/politics/trump-immigration-ban-memo.html?smid=fb-nytimes&smtyp=cur&_r=0


LOL, well there goes the "hiring freeze" .:doh::laughing-

Although at a higher level this is akin to the official who was fired for not validating gay marriages. Its all political theater. Yates was out in a week anyways when Sessions is approved so she took a stand.
Its not very shocking that an Obama hack wouldn't understand the concept of enforcing the law

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This administration is a train wreck in motion. What a cluster fuck these guys are. Absolutely shameful. Dictator Trump wants it his way or your out.


Fired: Trump dumps top lawyer who defied immigration order | Reuters (http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-immigration-idUSKBN15E1DE)


https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/30/us/politics/trump-immigration-ban-memo.html?smid=fb-nytimes&smtyp=cur&_r=0

It might have been a shitty thing to do but the actual firing comes down to the fact that constitutionally, she was not obeying the law which says they must obey executive orders that are issued. Even the federal judges who "repealed" Trump's order only had the power to temporarily halt it, and even then, they were only allowed to modify the order to allow people with existing visas the ability to travel.

The federal court cannot over-rule the executive branch. What happens next when they meet about this issue again, they will vote, and if Trump gets two thirds of the majority vote from the house and senate, then his order will stand.

The first federal judge to defy Trump's order was a first-year judge trying to make a name for herself. Sally Yates was leftover from the Obama Administration, and even then she was only supposed to be an interim appointment. In both cases, trying to cross the President of the United States was not smart for either person's career.

If Trump's executive order, any of them, were blatantly unconstitutional, then Yates would have been in the right to not defend them in court, and she still likely would have been fired.

But

Trump's order is not unconstitutional - it is not a ban of all Muslims, it is not infringing on the rights of any US naturalized or native born citizen, it does not deny freedom of religious expression or free speech (heck it clearly gives opponents more opportunities to use that valued right), and it is based on existing law that has been used more selectively for the same principle.

We will quickly see how deep Trump's support goes. Clearly the activist base of the Democratic party is energized and out in full force. If Trump's support is broad enough to force the Republican party to stay the course, then these protests could be the last gasp of a dying democratic resistance. If the Republican's in the Senate don't stand with Trump's "movement" then it will flame out, and Trump will be a one term lame duck president.

We seem to be living through a defining epochal in our history.

One problem with the firing is this:

s, but as the top Senate-confirmed official at the Justice Department, she is the only one authorized to sign foreign surveillance warrants, an essential function at the department.

So until somebody else is confirmed, no FISA warrants can be issued. We aren't sure Sessions will be confirmed. I seriously doubt any Democrat will vote for him with his background in racism.


Although at a higher level this is akin to the official who was fired for not validating gay marriages. Its all political theater. Yates was out in a week anyways when Sessions is approved so she took a stand.
Its not very shocking that an Obama hack wouldn't understand the concept of enforcing the law

She's sworn to uphold the law of the Constitution. If she thinks the executive order is unconstitutional, then it's her duty NOT to execute those actions. She's doing her job.

Trump's order is not unconstitutional - it is not a ban of all Muslims, .

You aren't a lawyer. JR is. That said, the cat is out of the bag thanks to dumbass Giuliani spilling the beans on the "Muslim ban".

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2017/01/29/trump-asked-for-a-muslim-ban-giuliani-says-and-ordered-a-commission-to-do-it-legally/?utm_term=.a065a34624e3

You do realize he campaigned on banning Muslims?
https://www.donaldjtrump.com/press-releases/donald-j.-trump-statement-on-preventing-muslim-immigration



- December 07, 2015 -
​Donald J. Trump Statement on Preventing Muslim Immigration

(New York, NY) December 7th, 2015, -- Donald J. Trump is calling for a total and complete shutdown of Muslims entering the United States until our country's representatives can figure out what is going on. According to Pew Research, among others, there is great hatred towards Americans by large segments of the Muslim population. Most recently, a poll from the Center for Security Policy released data showing "25% of those polled agreed that violence against Americans here in the United States is justified as a part of the global jihad" and 51% of those polled, "agreed that Muslims in America should have the choice of being governed according to Shariah." Shariah authorizes such atrocities as murder against non-believers who won't convert, beheadings and more unthinkable acts that pose great harm to Americans, especially women.

So yes, it is unconstitutional.

You know it's bad when the Koch brothers are saying something.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2017/01/29/koch-network-condemns-trump-ban-on-refugees-and-immigrants/?utm_term=.b0fd9c7e0089






If Trump's support is broad enough to force the Republican party to stay the course, then these protests could be the last gasp of a dying democratic resistance. If the Republican's in the Senate don't stand with Trump's "movement" then it will flame out, and Trump will be a one term lame duck president.

ROFL? I can safely assure you that the "democratic resistance" is far from dead. Seeing as even 3 million more voted for hillary this past election. This is a fact, if Democrats were to show up to vote each election, the GOP would never win another election. Period.

Democratic, Republican Identification Near Historical Lows | Gallup (http://www.gallup.com/poll/188096/democratic-republican-identification-near-historical-lows.aspx)

Blah blah blah.....another Obama appointee is gone.
Executive authority really sucks when its not wielded by bleeding hearts.
:laughing-

Blah blah blah.....another Obama appointee is gone.

Executive authority really sucks when its not wielded by bleeding hearts.

:laughing-



Are you an old bitter person who lives alone? I bet you are.

Why cant all of you rightists see the difference this time around? When Obama was Pres all of you bitched. When Bush was Pres all of us bitched.
That is how it was for a long time.
This is completely different. This has left the "bitching" world of politics and entered into the "insane" world of politics.
It is not our fault that the insane one ran on your ticket.