sdskinsfan2001
02-21-2017, 02:44 PM
Are you 100% sure about that?
The way I understood it from Cooley and Kevin's show is the 2 first rounders are the starting point of the negotiation, in a non-exclusive tag where the Redskins don't match an offer made by a team, but if this team says "we won't give more than a first and a second, take that or keep KC" I think it's up to the Redskins to decide what they want to do...
How wrong am I?
As far as I know, it can be negotiated, but if it's not 2 1st, It would need to be like a 1st 2nd and 3rd in this draft to even think about it.
FrenchSkin
02-21-2017, 02:46 PM
As far as I know, it can be negotiated, but if it's not 2 1st, It would need to be like a 1st 2nd and 3rd in this draft to even think about it.
That's what I understand when I read about the tags' rules online, but I'm pretty sure Cooley said no team would actually give up 2 first rounders... maybe I misunderstood his point...
metalskins
02-21-2017, 04:53 PM
Are you 100% sure about that?
The way I understood it from Cooley and Kevin's show is the 2 first rounders are the starting point of the negotiation, in a non-exclusive tag where the Redskins don't match an offer made by a team, but if this team says "we won't give more than a first and a second, take that or keep KC" I think it's up to the Redskins to decide what they want to do...
How wrong am I?
You're understanding it as if the new team holds all the cards and has the power over negotiation. They don't. In fact, there doesn't have to be any negotiation at all. If San Fran offers a contract to Cousins, the Redskins decide not to match, then if Cousins agrees and signs, San Fran has to give up their two first round picks. They don't get an option to negotiate unless the Redskins are willing to negotiate another deal. It's basically defaulted as two first round picks unless otherwise negotiated. That's how the league has set it up.
If a team says they're not giving up their first rounders, well, they don't get Kirk Cousins. It's not that the Redskins necessarily want to get rid of Cousins, but if another team is willing to outbid the 'skins, then they are not getting rid of him and leaving empty-handed.
FrenchSkin
02-21-2017, 06:39 PM
You're understanding it as if the new team holds all the cards and has the power over negotiation. They don't. In fact, there doesn't have to be any negotiation at all. If San Fran offers a contract to Cousins, the Redskins decide not to match, then if Cousins agrees and signs, San Fran has to give up their two first round picks. They don't get an option to negotiate unless the Redskins are willing to negotiate another deal. It's basically defaulted as two first round picks unless otherwise negotiated. That's how the league has set it up.
If a team says they're not giving up their first rounders, well, they don't get Kirk Cousins. It's not that the Redskins necessarily want to get rid of Cousins, but if another team is willing to outbid the 'skins, then they are not getting rid of him and leaving empty-handed.
Honestly I'm not speculating on what's likely or not, I'm just trying to fully comprehend the rules, and know what is possible so my heart is ready for this long offseason.
Alvin Walton
02-21-2017, 07:31 PM
Gahhh.....I feel like I'm waiting to see if my wife will divorce me or not.
sdskinsfan2001
02-21-2017, 10:15 PM
Gahhh.....I feel like I'm waiting to see if my wife will divorce me or not.
Lol awesome analogy. I do too, and it's like I don't really love my wife and won't be disappointed if she does.
mooby
02-21-2017, 11:26 PM
If July 15th comes and no deal is reached...
https://media.giphy.com/media/dOl2LFw0RbTMc/giphy.gif
skinsfaninok
02-21-2017, 11:28 PM
Gahhh.....I feel like I'm waiting to see if my wife will divorce me or not.
Lol
JPPT1974
02-21-2017, 11:46 PM
He wants to play a long time and not keep on being franchise tag. Who could blame him. But would hate to see him go.
sdskinsfan2001
02-22-2017, 01:10 AM
If July 15th comes and no deal is reached...
https://media.giphy.com/media/dOl2LFw0RbTMc/giphy.gif
This is awesome too. You and Alvin Walton are on fire.