Kirk Cousins 365 thread

That's most likely the case. It's possible he's using it as one more step to help him get out the door. But more likely he's doing this so that the tag value of $24M gets baked into actuality. When your starting point in a negotiation is $24M guaranteed over one year, it gives you more leverage than when you don't have $24M guaranteed over one year.



After signing the tag he'll be one step closer to a 3rd tag worth $34M, which puts insane amounts of leverage in his court.



I think he and his agent are conducting what is probably the perfect contract negotiation.


They're certainly playing it by the book. Can't blame them.

here's another depressing thought... Imagine losing cousins, jackson, and garçon all in one offseason? I don't see it happening but right now who knows.

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I'd be more sad if we lost Garcon than if we lost Cousins. Not because of who is better or who is more important, he's just my favorite Redskins player and he has done everything asked of him. He deserves a nice contract from us. He's still playing well too. He's our Anquan Boldin.

I wish I could just ask Kirk...Do you want to be a Redskins but also want as much money as possible or are you trying to drive up your price so high you force their hand in letting you go because you don't really want to play here.

Either way it looks like he's getting franchised and this whole thing could drag all the way out to July 15th. Ugh!

Yeah we won't know until July 15. The $ value the Redskins offer will eventually get out. If we hear that they're topping out at $18M and Cousins gets away from us the next year because of it, then we know who we'll be angry at. Likewise, if we hear that the offers are coming in $22M or $23M per year, and Cousins turns it down and ultimately gets away because of it, then we know who we'll be angry at.

I'll be more pissed at the 'Skins if they lowball him again than I would if Cousins just flat wants out. But I'd be pissed about either. Real pissed.

2 mottos as Skins fans:

1. There's always next year; and
2. Never easy

This falls into the latter.

There are 4 options at this point and I'm fine with 3 of them and 100% against 1. I'm OK with the non exclusive tag and hoping some team signs him, signing him to a long term deal and keeping him, or signing and trading him. I do not want him playing out the year for us on the franchise tag.

2 mottos as Skins fans:

1. There's always next year; and
2. Never easy

This falls into the latter.

There are 4 options at this point and I'm fine with 3 of them and 100% against 1. I'm OK with the non exclusive tag and hoping some team signs him, signing him to a long term deal and keeping him, or signing and trading him. I do not want him playing out the year for us on the franchise tag.

If that happens, there will be only two possible reasons:

1) the Redskins lowballed him again with unreasonably low contract offers
2) Cousins got a decent offer but turned it down because he flat doesn't want to be here

We'll know at that point. If July 15 passes without a deal, he's as good as gone.

Here's another depressing thought... imagine losing Cousins, Jackson, and Garçon all in one offseason? I don't see it happening but right now who knows.

We just have stand behind our vaunted defense then.

If that happens, there will be only two possible reasons:

1) the Redskins lowballed him again with unreasonably low contract offers
2) Cousins got a decent offer but turned it down because he flat doesn't want to be here

We'll know at that point. If July 15 passes without a deal, he's as good as gone.

I wish I could psyche my brain into forgetting about football until July 16th. I could read about who we drafted at that time and have this situation be settled.

In a simple world we meet in the middle for 5 years 115 million and move on to building the rest of the team. A man can dream.

If that happens, there will be only two possible reasons:

1) the Redskins lowballed him again with unreasonably low contract offers
2) Cousins got a decent offer but turned it down because he flat doesn't want to be here

We'll know at that point. If July 15 passes without a deal, he's as good as gone.

Why we should trade him if that's the case. Better get what you can now, than walk after this year for nothing.

Well, it wouldn't be anything less. The standard compensation are the two first round picks. The Redskins don't have to negotiate in this instance. Now if the team has something else that appears to be "equal value" in the Redskins' eyes, say a star defensive player and some lower round picks or a couple defensive players, then the Redskins could negotiate a deal like that. But, they don't have to take anything less than the two first round picks.

Are you 100% sure about that?

The way I understood it from Cooley and Kevin's show is the 2 first rounders are the starting point of the negotiation, in a non-exclusive tag where the Redskins don't match an offer made by a team, but if this team says "we won't give more than a first and a second, take that or keep KC" I think it's up to the Redskins to decide what they want to do...

How wrong am I?