CRedskinsRule
02-14-2017, 06:40 PM
Franchise him this year, transition tag him next year.
That would be terrible cap management. You would have given him in effect a 3 year guaranteed of 67-70Million. If you plan to do that, write up a 75Mill guarantee 6yr deal net 145M and be done with it for the next 6 years.
KI Skins Fan
02-14-2017, 08:20 PM
That would be terrible cap management. You would have given him in effect a 3 year guaranteed of 67-70Million. If you plan to do that, write up a 75Mill guarantee 6yr deal net 145M and be done with it for the next 6 years.
It would hurt the team-building process, as well. The situation here would hardly be encouraging to free agents with a Head Coach in the final year of his contract, a GM on the hot seat, and the starting QB on his second franchise tag deal.
No sense going into it too much. I think most of us would agree that the idea of tagging Kirk twice more is pretty much idiotic. Worse, it portends a descent into Dumb and Dumber II, with Smithers in the role of Vinny.
Brody81
02-14-2017, 08:53 PM
Go ask the Cards, the Lions, and the Browns if waiting for the right qb is working out for them. I think you are forgetting football is a team sport, you can win a SB with a great team and a decent qb. We don't need Kirk to be the next Brady, which it seems is what you're asking for. You're also forgetting that those teams in the 80's played in a very different NFL than today. The rules today are geared towards higher scoring offenses which demand at minimum above-average qb play. Kirk has shown he can do that. Quit trying to blame the entire Giants game on him, the entire team looked bad that day.
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artmonkforhallofamein07
02-14-2017, 10:56 PM
To be fair the defense gave up 12 points in the giants game.
The offense let us down big time as a whole. Without that fumble return at the end to give them 19, two touchdowns out of our offense would have won the game
mredskins
02-15-2017, 09:22 AM
To be fair the defense gave up 12 points in the giants game.
The offense let us down big time as a whole. Without that fumble return at the end to give them 19, two touchdowns out of our offense would have won the game
That lost was squarely on the offense. I agree.
KI Skins Fan
02-15-2017, 10:58 AM
That lost was squarely on the offense. I agree.
Which is why they immediately fired the DC.
metalskins
02-15-2017, 12:35 PM
Go ask the Cards, the Lions, and the Browns if waiting for the right qb is working out for them. I think you are forgetting football is a team sport, you can win a SB with a great team and a decent qb. We don't need Kirk to be the next Brady, which it seems is what you're asking for. You're also forgetting that those teams in the 80's played in a very different NFL than today. The rules today are geared towards higher scoring offenses which demand at minimum above-average qb play. Kirk has shown he can do that. Quit trying to blame the entire Giants game on him, the entire team looked bad that day.
Lions? They seem to have a pretty solid quarterback in Mathew Stafford.
mredskins
02-15-2017, 12:36 PM
Which is why they immediately fired the DC.
I am talking about THAT loss. Barry was fired for his performance for the entire season.
mredskins
02-15-2017, 12:37 PM
Lions? They seem to have a pretty solid quarterback in Mathew Stafford.
I think he meant Bills, Jets, Rams.....IDK
diehardskin2982
02-15-2017, 02:30 PM
My thinking right now is that we will non-exclusive franchise tag Cousins this year because we can likely match the majority of offers that are signed for him and take the value if we decide not to match.
If we lose Kirk, it will be to the... Browns.
Everyone is thinking that SF because of Kyle tie in, but I believe it will be the Browns who will sign that offer sheet because they have the ammo and the reasoning.
They can trade the 1st overall pick and still pick in the first round at 12. The also have multiple 2nd round picks and the most cap space. If they want to do an outright trade they have the ammunition to make that happen.
Last year the Browns racked up multiple picks in this draft and if they don't make the right decisions this year that management will be fired.