Kirk Cousins 365 thread


FrenchSkin
02-14-2017, 03:09 AM
You willing to wait an eternity to find the 4-5 guys available in the world right now that can handle championship-winning pressure? Regardless of your argument Kirk represents the best solution at this current time.

I'm sure KC can handle that kind of pressure, he did when he took over, in 2015 how do you call that 7-3 record after the bye, with a 4 wins streak at the end of the season to get us to the playoffs? In your first season as a starter, I call that handling the pressure pretty well...

One bad game doesn't speak about your ability to handle the pressure through your whole career... Even Aaron Rodgers f'd up in some big games...

Cooley said the other day there was another QB, who people told, at the beginning of his career, that he couldn't win the big games, couldn't handle the pressure... his name is Peyton Manning.

SolidSnake84
02-14-2017, 06:48 AM
I'm sure KC can handle that kind of pressure, he did when he took over, in 2015 how do you call that 7-3 record after the bye, with a 4 wins streak at the end of the season to get us to the playoffs? In your first season as a starter, I call that handling the pressure pretty well...

One bad game doesn't speak about your ability to handle the pressure through your whole career... Even Aaron Rodgers f'd up in some big games...

Cooley said the other day there was another QB, who people told, at the beginning of his career, that he couldn't win the big games, couldn't handle the pressure... his name is Peyton Manning.

Great post. Aaron Rodgers at times this past season looked "done".

SkinsGuru
02-14-2017, 11:08 AM
You willing to wait an eternity to find the 4-5 guys available in the world right now that can handle championship-winning pressure? Regardless of your argument Kirk represents the best solution at this current time.

isn't that the whole goal? i certainly would rather wait than sit in mediocrity . . . if he can't handle the pressure (and I didn't say he couldn't, just IF), then hell no, i want to win a championship . . . i was rooting in the 80's and remember 3 championships very clearly (well the first not as much), we certainly didn't have issues finding players that played up to the moment then.

FrenchSkin
02-14-2017, 11:53 AM
isn't that the whole goal? i certainly would rather wait than sit in mediocrity . . . if he can't handle the pressure (and I didn't say he couldn't, just IF), then hell no, i want to win a championship . . . i was rooting in the 80's and remember 3 championships very clearly (well the first not as much), we certainly didn't have issues finding players that played up to the moment then.

The Ravens won a SB with Joe Flacco. Hell, the niners almost won with Colin freakin' Kaepernick! Isn't KC way better than the second and at the very least slightly better than the first ?

SkinsGuru
02-14-2017, 01:09 PM
The Ravens won a SB with Joe Flacco. Hell, the niners almost won with Colin freakin' Kaepernick! Isn't KC way better than the second and at the very least slightly better than the first ?

Flacco has been stellar in the playoffs . . . and his playoff play is why he has a huge contract . . . again, i'm not the one saying he folds under pressure . . . but if he can't handle the pressure of a contract negotiation in which he makes a MINIMUM of 24 million for a year, then no way he handles the pressure of a game like a conference championship or super bowl . . . i personally don't think his lack of contract had anything to do whatsoever with his play in the last game, he just had a shitty game like he has at times over his career . . . everyone has them, hell Brady had a horrible game going in the superbowl this year until the 4th quarter.

metalskins
02-14-2017, 05:14 PM
So just a pleasant reminder folks, tomorrow (February 15th) is the first day that teams can designate tags on their players. I doubt we'll hear anything out of the 'skins until the March 1st deadline, but things should start heating up after tomorrow.

Evilgrin
02-14-2017, 05:33 PM
Franchise him this year, transition tag him next year.

mooby
02-14-2017, 05:47 PM
isn't that the whole goal? i certainly would rather wait than sit in mediocrity . . . if he can't handle the pressure (and I didn't say he couldn't, just IF), then hell no, i want to win a championship . . . i was rooting in the 80's and remember 3 championships very clearly (well the first not as much), we certainly didn't have issues finding players that played up to the moment then.

Go ask the Cards, the Lions, and the Browns if waiting for the right qb is working out for them. I think you are forgetting football is a team sport, you can win a SB with a great team and a decent qb. We don't need Kirk to be the next Brady, which it seems is what you're asking for. You're also forgetting that those teams in the 80's played in a very different NFL than today. The rules today are geared towards higher scoring offenses which demand at minimum above-average qb play. Kirk has shown he can do that. Quit trying to blame the entire Giants game on him, the entire team looked bad that day.

FrenchSkin
02-14-2017, 06:05 PM
Go ask the Cards, the Lions, and the Browns if waiting for the right qb is working out for them. I think you are forgetting football is a team sport, you can win a SB with a great team and a decent qb. We don't need Kirk to be the next Brady, which it seems is what you're asking for. You're also forgetting that those teams in the 80's played in a very different NFL than today. The rules today are geared towards higher scoring offenses which demand at minimum above-average qb play. Kirk has shown he can do that. Quit trying to blame the entire Giants game on him, the entire team looked bad that day.

Yop. Especially on offense. IIRC Defense did pretty much everything we could expect out of them at that point to put the offense in position to win. Even Trent Williams had an horrible game...

FrenchSkin
02-14-2017, 06:07 PM
Franchise him this year, transition tag him next year.

Heard that possibility talked about by Cooley and Kevin. I think that's an argument for the team's board to say "take this offer or we have that option and are ready to use it".
But I don't see how that's a great idea, we'd end up paying him in 3 years the same amount of guaranteed money he'd be asking for 6 years...

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