metalskins
02-09-2017, 10:47 AM
Do you mean a QB who got the non-exclusive franchise tag? Like Matt Cassell in 2009 or Kirk Cousins last year?
The tag that Cousins got last year was a non-exclusive?
CRedskinsRule
02-09-2017, 11:08 AM
The tag that Cousins got last year was a non-exclusive?
yup - Washington Redskins franchise tag Kirk Cousins - NFL.com (http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000640458/article/washington-redskins-franchise-tag-kirk-cousins)
The Washington Redskins used their non-exclusive franchise tag on Cousins, the team announced Tuesday. The designation acts as a one-year, $19.95 million contract for the quarterback, who picked a wonderful time to enjoy a breakout season in 2015
metalskins
02-09-2017, 11:33 AM
yup - Washington Redskins franchise tag Kirk Cousins - NFL.com (http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000640458/article/washington-redskins-franchise-tag-kirk-cousins)
That's interesting. Don't know how I missed that. I assumed it was the exclusive. Maybe because I never heard of any teams wanting to negotiate with Cousins last offseason.
mooby
02-09-2017, 01:03 PM
Do you mean a QB who got the non-exclusive franchise tag? Like Matt Cassell in 2009 or Kirk Cousins last year?
No I meant more along the lines of a true franchise qb, like a Manning or a Brees. I like Kirk, don't get me wrong, but there were still doubts last offseason about him being a true franchise qb, and Matt Cassel was decent in '09 (iirc correctly that was the year he was coming off the 11-5 season for the Pats) but he wasn't "elite qb decent."
metalskins
02-09-2017, 04:22 PM
No I meant more along the lines of a true franchise qb, like a Manning or a Brees. I like Kirk, don't get me wrong, but there were still doubts last offseason about him being a true franchise qb, and Matt Cassel was decent in '09 (iirc correctly that was the year he was coming off the 11-5 season for the Pats) but he wasn't "elite qb decent."
Not sure I'm following your point. True franchise quarterbacks don't get the franchise tag? So, Kirk Cousins isn't franchise quarterback material?
mooby
02-09-2017, 04:49 PM
Not sure I'm following your point. True franchise quarterbacks don't get the franchise tag? So, Kirk Cousins isn't franchise quarterback material?
No, my point is when a truly elite qb like a Manning or Brees has their contract about to expire, they get exclusive franchise tags. I assume Kirk will get a non-exclusive tag just because that's what they did last year. If they don't even want to entertain offers he will get the exclusive tag though.
SmootSmack
02-09-2017, 04:58 PM
No I meant more along the lines of a true franchise qb, like a Manning or a Brees. I like Kirk, don't get me wrong, but there were still doubts last offseason about him being a true franchise qb, and Matt Cassel was decent in '09 (iirc correctly that was the year he was coming off the 11-5 season for the Pats) but he wasn't "elite qb decent."
I figured that's what you meant. Like if there is no doubt, you take no chances of losing him.
mooby
02-09-2017, 05:14 PM
I figured that's what you meant. Like if there is no doubt, you take no chances of losing him.
Exactly. I'm not positive they like Kirk that much though.
punch it in
02-09-2017, 05:15 PM
Exactly. I'm not positive they like Kirk that much though.
They should.....
mooby
02-09-2017, 05:17 PM
They should.....
I agree. There are clearly no other options that are even close to what Kirk can do. I do think there's some truth to the idea that Dan isn't Kirk's biggest fan though. Hopefully the people around him will be able to convince him to sign the check though, we already have enough holes to fill.