Kirk Cousins 365 thread

From overthecap top qb's and APY

Player APY
Andrew Luck $24,594,000 (3 playoff wins and 1st pick hype)
Drew Brees $24,250,000 (SB win)
Kirk Cousins $23,944,000 (1 and a bit playoff losses)
Joe Flacco $22,133,333 (SB win)
Aaron Rodgers $22,000,000 (SB win 17 playoff appearances)
Russell Wilson $21,900,000 (SB win)
Ben Roethlisberger $21,850,000 (SB wins)
Carson Palmer $21,000,000 (1 playoff win )
Eli Manning $21,000,000 (SB wins)
Philip Rivers $20,812,500 (4 playoff wins)


This is just to say that if KC chooses not to accept an offer that has an APY of around 22M, (i get contract inflation) then I'm not going to fault the FO for not getting him signed. Even at 20M that's probably a legitimate point of where his talent alone puts him.

This puts it all into perspective..Hell no don't pay him more than Rogers..he needs to be real..load it with incentives so if he is all that he could make 25 million plus..

If Rodgers deal was up he would get at least $30M per year. It's all about timing.

If Rodgers deal was up he would get at least $30M per year. It's all about timing.

I agree with that, and KC deserves a good contract, my point was mainly about the FO and if KC chooses not to accept something that gives him more than 20M/apy then that is his choice not necessarily proof of a FO mess up.

Keim was on the radio about an hour ago. I think he said Kyle and KC have the same agent..... if true, it is a game of chicken, do the Redskins settle for a 2nd/3rd round pick, or play hard ball and try to get a first round pick plus ? SF could hope KC would be a true free agent in 2018....Washington should threaten to franchise KC again if SF low balls them.

Washington cannot let KC go and get nothing

NFL Network, NFL Media reporter Sam Wyche talked about what he was told by some who work at Redskins Park. Everything Im hearing from the folks in that building is that 'Cousins has made it clear he does not want to be there,'"*said Wyche. He wants to get to San Francisco and play for Kyle Shanahan."

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Here is the issue, all that believe Cousins is going to sign long-term in DC need to realize that it's a pipedream.

It now looks like a trade is a dream too. Dan Snyder is still meddling, no different from 2000. He refuses to trade with Kyle. Even if it insures that his team gets nothing. I really hate this owner. I wish the other owners of the redskins worked together to have him removed. He has destroyed this team.

Keim was on the radio about an hour ago. I think he said Kyle and KC have the same agent..... if true, it is a game of chicken, do the Redskins settle for a 2nd/3rd round pick, or play hard ball and try to get a first round pick plus ? SF could hope KC would be a true free agent in 2018....Washington should threaten to franchise KC again if SF low balls them.

Washington cannot let KC go and get nothing

The Redskins have all of the power. I do not understand why we are worried. He is not going to SF this year or next year, without receiving 2 first round picks and a second. Anybody that says different is foolish.

1. He signs the tag and makes 24 million. If he doesn't sign it, he doesn't get paid.
2. He signs a long term deal by July 15th or he doesn't. If he doesn't he doesn't play and sits on the practice squad like the last QB to leave town. This basically ruins his market value next year.
3. We have a veteran QB that can win 4 - 8 games and is willing to be a bridge QB.
4. If the agent tries to play both sides, they let him know we can tag Kirk next year as well.

NFL Network, NFL Media reporter Sam Wyche talked about what he was told by some who work at Redskins Park. Everything Im hearing from the folks in that building is that 'Cousins has made it clear he does not want to be there,'"*said Wyche. He wants to get to San Francisco and play for Kyle Shanahan."

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Who the hell is Sam Wyche? He is another nobody that knows nothing about what is going on inside the building.

Did I tell you I spoke to someone at Redskins park last fall? Does that make me a legitimate source?

I agree, Redskins have more leverage than it seems. I would not rule out the possibility of tagging him at 34M. They may save themselves enough cap space to be capable of it.

I agree. Even if he plays on the tag this year, do the transition tag next year for 2 1sts.

If a team loses their QB mid season - is a trade of KC possible mid-season? I'd assume he'd have to say okay to work out a LTD with the suitor. Would they have to pay a prorated portion of the franchise tag #? Would we eat all of his salary that year?