Gruden fires defensive coordinator Joe Barry

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Schneed10
01-06-2017, 11:35 AM
Gus Bradley also qualifies as a near no-brainer. It'd be smart and it would mesh with the philosophy McC is trying to build.

metalskins
01-06-2017, 11:43 AM
For Gus Bradley fans:

Early buzz: Gus Bradley is atop Redskins' list of defensive coordinator candidates. GM Scot McCloughan knows him well from their time in SEA

Here's the link:

REPORT: Former Jags Coach Emerges as Redskins Top Defensive Coordinator Target | 12up (http://www.12up.com/posts/4371213-report-former-jags-coach-emerges-as-redskins-top-defensive-coordinator-target?a_aid=40833)

mooby
01-06-2017, 12:03 PM
In 2014 he was benched and I think he and Snyder were already off on the wrong foot. Remember the reports that Snyder called Gruden's agent in 14 and said..."your guy is stealing" That can't be confirmed but I probably think Gruden went for a DC that would not threaten him.

I'm not saying you're wrong but I never heard anything about that. I am sure Snyder was disappointed we gave up on RG3 though, so it's possible.

mooby
01-06-2017, 12:05 PM
Here's the link:

REPORT: Former Jags Coach Emerges as Redskins Top Defensive Coordinator Target | 12up (http://www.12up.com/posts/4371213-report-former-jags-coach-emerges-as-redskins-top-defensive-coordinator-target?a_aid=40833)

I'm alright with this. I know people are saying he isn't one of those coordinators who can work with any talent, but it's not like we're sitting here saying we're alright with our untalented defensive roster. McC knows what he has to do this year.

metalskins
01-06-2017, 12:25 PM
I'm alright with this. I know people are saying he isn't one of those coordinators who can work with any talent, but it's not like we're sitting here saying we're alright with our untalented defensive roster. McC knows what he has to do this year.

I'm OK with it as well. Wade Phillips will probably keep his job in Denver, so he would be out of the running anyway. Gregg Williams probably wouldn't come back after what happened when Gibbs left, so I think this is the best choice. I don't believe the Redskins are in a position to hire someone who has never been a defensive coordinator before. Bradley has the experience and has had success. McCloughan will work his tail off to bring in the talent that Bradley needs to succeed. I really believe this is almost a no-brainer, because Gruden's job probably hinges on the success of this hire.

FrenchSkin
01-06-2017, 12:51 PM
Guys, did you listen at Cooley & Kevin's show from yesterday morning, just a few hours before the firing?

Cooley and Kevin | ESPN 980 (http://www.espn980.com/cooley-and-kevin/)

I'm amazed by how accurate they are. Cooley has some pretty deep sources, and insights!

They were saying it's not only a DC problem (in fact Cooley says we can do better at DC but Barry's scheme isn't the main problem) but also a defensive staff issue, because, among others things, DB coach let the DB room go completely dismantled, not coaching the guys into playing this defense as designed and as called.

And a few hours after the show, pretty much exactly what they said needed to happen happened. Just wow! They either are pretty close to the decision makers, or effin football wizards!

Chico23231
01-06-2017, 12:55 PM
Guys, did you listen at Cooley & Kevin's show from yesterday morning, just a few hours before the firing?

Cooley and Kevin | ESPN 980 (http://www.espn980.com/cooley-and-kevin/)

I'm amazed by how accurate they are. Cooley has some pretty deep sources, and insights!

They were saying it's not only a DC problem (in fact Cooley says we can do better at DC but Barry's scheme isn't the main problem) but also a defensive staff issue, because, among others things, DB coach let the DB room go completely dismantled, not coaching the guys into playing this defense as designed and as called.

And a few hours after the show, pretty much exactly what they said needed to happen happened. Just wow! They either are pretty close to the decision makers, or effin football wizards!

Keim said the other day he had heard a lot of complaints about Fewell (DB coach) from the organization and that he wasn't surprised Fewell was let go. I don't know the ins and out, but I think its interesting. We seemed to see a lot of secondary players not play as well as last year.

FrenchSkin
01-06-2017, 12:59 PM
Keim said the other day he had heard a lot of complaints about Fewell (DB coach) from the organization and that he wasn't surprised Fewell was let go. I don't know the ins and out, but I think its interesting. We seemed to see a lot of secondary players not play as well as last year.

Yeah. Norman was the only one who seemed to be able to play at his close to best level. And he has a strong mind.
Something in the coaching didn't help these guys play at their best level.

Don't know what, because I wasn't mad at the effort. Missed tackles number way down, some stops being made despite the apparent lack of talent...

You know what? With a little bit more talent, and the right coaching, we might have a pretty good D next year... Wouldn't bet on it, but with what we are hearing it's far from impossible.

SkinsGuru
01-06-2017, 01:07 PM
Exactly my point.Can he co exist with and take orders from someone else?MHO...no.

he did prior to getting a head coaching gig . . . and plenty of of other strong minded head coaches have gone back into coordinators . . . easier job and still tons of money . . . don't know for sure if he can, but he was a great 3-4 DC

HAILing_from_FL
01-06-2017, 01:51 PM
Hi everyone....My first post so go easy on me. I am new here but been a fan of the team for 40 years and was a Season tix holder from 2009-2012.

Gus Bradley also qualifies as a near no-brainer. It'd be smart and it would mesh with the philosophy McC is trying to build.

I don't know that Bradley is a no brainer.....I took a look at how the Jaguars Defense has been performing while he was there as HC and it isn't encouraging. Granted, he wasn't the DC but he had to have a heavy hand in the D overall. In 13 and 14 they were worse than the Jim Haslett lead Skins D in YPG, and 3rd D %, and both teams were bottom 5-7 in PPG allowed. In 15 Jax was worse than JBarry's Skins in PPG allowed and 3rd D % and both teams were among the league worst in YPG allowed with the Skins only 5 ypg better. in the 2016 season the Jags had the #6 overall defense in YPG allowed which is way better than the Skins but not as good as it sounds when you realize that, like the Skins, they were in the 5 worst in the league for PPG allowed. The Jags had a respectable 3rd D % this past year VS. the Skins historically bad 47% but I can't get excited about this small difference.

Bradley's D since he left Seattle seems to be about on par with Haslett and Barry. Doesn't seem like a good solution to me.

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