Gruden fires defensive coordinator Joe Barry

Don't worry. If Jay Gruden screws up this hire, he's as good as gone by the end of next season. Guaranteed.

On the contrary, giving Gruden another chance to start over on the defense tells me Bruce and/or Scot really likes him. If this next season totally goes to shit Gruden could be fired I suppose, but if it's just the defense that's bad and his offense is still playing well I would bet anything he and his D coordinator will be back for another year. Going further, this makes me more optimistic we get a long term deal done with Cousins. Bruce/Scot will want to give their coach his guy at QB

You and me both, brother.

If it's Gus Bradley I'm happy, if it's Manusky I'm pissed. But if it's Wade then I'm ecstatic.

I'm not sure about Bradley coming here?

First he's only as good as his talent. So like Barry he can't turn chicken feed into chicken salad. Granted when he did have talent his defense was on point. And McCloughan did construct his best units so they may rekindles their defensive wizardry if they reunite.

Second I have heard he plans on following Anthony Lynn, wherever he goes, to be his DC:

https://www.google.com/amp/profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2017/01/01/report-gus-bradley-to-go-with-anthony-lynn-this-offseason/amp/?client=ms-android-hms-tmobile-us

https://www.google.com/amp/ftw.usatoday.com/2017/01/gus-bradley-anthony-lynn-jacksonville-jaguars-awkward/amp

The DC job should interest top candidates: we're going heavy on D this draft, the offense is in good shape, and the old guy is leaving small shoes to fill. The days when the best coach we could attract was Jim Zorn seem to be behind us.

If Jeff Fishfucker becomes our defensive coordinator I'm switching teams or just never watching football again.

If Jeff Fishfucker becomes our defensive coordinator I'm switching teams or just never watching football again.


Considering Fisher is holding a grudge against The Skins, for sacking his boy Shanahan, Kanye West and George W. Bush singing a duet would be more probable.

Considering Fisher is holding a grudge against The Skins, for sacking his boy Shanahan, Kanye West and George W. Bush singing a duet would be more probable.

I'd rather have those two be co-defensive coordinators than hire Fisher.

I wouldn't mind seeing Wade take the job for a few years and then let his prodigy Manusky take over. Dude has got a lot of praise from Wade in the past.

The DC job should interest top candidates: we're going heavy on D this draft, the offense is in good shape, and the old guy is leaving small shoes to fill. The days when the best coach we could attract was Jim Zorn seem to be behind us.

really ? free agent QB, 2 WRs, TE and questionable running game

Gruden fired his buddy - that's a good sign. I am hoping the whole Tampa Bay/Allen/Gruden thing is over.

I agree with KI Skins Fan, this is it for Gruden. He stuck with Haslett - probably out the same TBay/B. Allen connections - and kind of got a pass b/c, well, he was giving continuity a chance.

However, for his first "hire," Gruden passes on Phillips, a proven but unexciting DC who wanted to be here, with a history of making defenses better regardless of talent, and who's 3-4 scheme fit the personnel on hand. Instead, Gruden hires Barry a DC who only worked one year in a 3-4 scheme, whose only DC experience was taking a low-talent defense and leading it to a 0-16 season. Why? Bb/c he knew him, because he talked a good game when they interviewed, because he was high-energy, because he's Marinelli's son-in-law, because Barry had compromising pictures, because ... ???

Phillips goes to Denver and, with solid talent, puts together a stifling D that won Peyton Manning a second Super Bowl ring. Barry takes a limited talent D and has it play to its talent level. Who, regardless of his energy or alleged acumen, always seemed to be a step or two behind the opposing offense.

Gruden is entering year four. Scot McC is now running the team and is a no-nonsense guy. I think he basically says to Gruden:

"We are about to invest in your QB, we have solid talent on offense, we have the makings of a very good O-Line, I will be investing in the defense this offseason. You have one year to make sure that this defense improves and get your offense in the end zone. You have been given every opportunity to succeed your way - now, get this hire right or get the hell out."

really ? free agent QB, 2 WRs, TE and questionable running game

Go brush up on the cap situation. Almost all of those guys will be back.

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