In Scot we trust?

Sure, if you just want to make things up.

Who were the multiple nut jobs and criminals in SF? Did they not get to a SB with a roster that he played a significant role in building?

In the end his resume speaks for itself. You're acting like we just went 4-12 the last 2 years. Just a handful of guys he is responsible for drafting:

Alex Smith
Frank Gore
Vernon Davis
Delanie Walker
Patrick Willis
Joe Staley
Michael Crabtree
Russell Okung
Earl Thomas
Golden Tate
Kam Chancellor
Richard Sherman
Russell Wilson
Byron Maxwell
Bobby Wagner

Come on man.

Was just about to post the same list. You beat me to it. How anybody complains about Scot Mccloughan after two winning seasons is beyond my comprehension.

Sure, if you just want to make things up.



Who were the multiple nut jobs and criminals in SF? Did they not get to a SB with a roster that he played a significant role in building?



In the end his resume speaks for itself. You're acting like we just went 4-12 the last 2 years. Just a handful of guys he is responsible for drafting:



Alex Smith

Frank Gore

Vernon Davis

Delanie Walker

Patrick Willis

Joe Staley

Michael Crabtree

Russell Okung

Earl Thomas

Golden Tate

Kam Chancellor

Richard Sherman

Russell Wilson

Byron Maxwell

Bobby Wagner



Come on man.



Just seems like San Fran players are in trouble every year. Maybe not his guys. Aldon Smith was not I believe. He is probably responsible for half of the arrests. Lol
A lot of those guys on your list, as we mentioned, maybe were Schneider guys. Even so that list dates back to 2005. That is 11 years. It is a good pick or two a year.
Alex Smith was a no brainer. The consensus number one at the time. Not rocket science there.
Guys like Crowder are the ones that make a gm great. Full credit there. Over the last 11 years how many gems has he found? Again read between the lines. To say hey he took that stud out of college with that top ten pick well only guys like Vinny trade those away.
I am not saying Scot is a failure per say. I am just pumping the breaks on the idea he is Bobby Beathard 2.0.
Certainly not acting like we went 4-12. I have used the word mediocre several times. Mediocre as in 6-9 wins.
You guys are the ones acting like we won 4 games a year for 20 years until 2015. That is simply not the case. As I pointed out earlier we won 7-9 games 9 different years during the dark ages. There is not a whole shit ton of change here as we would all like to believe. We had two seasons in a row that we did not absolutely crap the bed. That is great. Lets remember how god awful the nfc east was last year though.
Time will tell if we are truly trending up or if we are the same old mediocre team. The other night we had it all there for the taking. A home game with a playoff birth on the line, and our run defense allowed the Giants their first and only hundred yard rusher of the season, our hc had a major brain fart at half, our oline was atrocious, our quarterback was awful. So excuse me for thinking that maybe we are the same old Skins.

Jesus H Christ.

Punch sober the fuck up.



Chico man I am just being cautiously pessimistic instead of cautiously optimistic. After that last game I think I have every reason in the world to do so. Next year is year three of the new regime. Are you that confident that we are taking the next step? I mean I understand being hopeful and all, but I see not much difference between this team or teams over the last 20 years. At least not where it counts. Which is winning big games. Winning playoff games. Making the playoffs consecutive years. Ill get outta here until i cool off, but you know damn well that you are as disappointed in this team as I am.

If you can't see any progress there's just no helping you.

We finished last in the division 8 out of 10 times in 2004-2014. We won 7 games combined in 2013-2014.

But yeah, it's the same old Skins, no progress whatsoever. For real??

Well one thing is for sure, this staff needs to get better with clock management.

I agree with this. Too many times they looked unprepared at the end of the half.

If you can't see any progress there's just no helping you.



We finished last in the division 8 out of 10 times in 2004-2014. We won 7 games combined in 2013-2014.



But yeah, it's the same old Skins, no progress whatsoever. For real??



Matty what I see is enough progress not to finish last. Lol. Though if im not mistaken we just finished third. 2013-14 was pure shit. Yea we are better than that. So what? We are not the Cleveland Browns.
If this team is progressing-truly progressing- than Id expect we are back in the playoffs next year. Scot has another draft, and free agency period. Provided we stay healthy- for the most part- than logical progress would point to a playoff birth. Maybe their is a difference of opinion about what we consider progress. Simply not being a doormat team is not what I had in mind. Yes we are not a laughing stock. Though that last game was pretty laughable.
If you are right about us trending up than there is no where to go but the playoffs next year - again barring major injuries, or weed suspensions. Fucking Trent might have cost us that one damn win we needed.
Im a fucking die hard. Make the playoffs next year and make me eat crow. Please!!!! Im dying for some crow man. But to think that this team will win 7 games next year does not make me a drunk idiot who makes things up. Lol. I still see a shit ton of holes and a major problem with our coaching staff. Sorry.

Matty what I see is enough progress not to finish last. Lol. Though if im not mistaken we just finished third. 2013-14 was pure shit. Yea we are better than that. So what? We are not the Cleveland Browns.
If this team is progressing-truly progressing- than Id expect we are back in the playoffs next year. Scot has another draft, and free agency period. Provided we stay healthy- for the most part- than logical progress would point to a playoff birth. Maybe their is a difference of opinion about what we consider progress. Simply not being a doormat team is not what I had in mind. Yes we are not a laughing stock. Though that last game was pretty laughable.
If you are right about us trending up than there is no where to go but the playoffs next year - again barring major injuries, or weed suspensions. Fucking Trent might have cost us that one damn win we needed.
Im a fucking die hard. Make the playoffs next year and make me eat crow. Please!!!! Im dying for some crow man. But to think that this team will win 7 games next year does not make me a drunk idiot who makes things up. Lol. I still see a shit ton of holes and a major problem with our coaching staff. Sorry.

Punch I have always respected you but I feel you are overreacting on this one. How do you even have expectations for next year? They haven't made a single move yet. They probably are still conducting exit interviews today. Maybe I will start being concerned if we haven't made any moves and training camp is about to start. But we're a long way off from that.

I think people lose sight of the fact this is the ultimate team sport. No one man can move the ball down the field single-handedly. No one man can stop every play on defense. We lost yesterday and to the Panthers because the entire team looked bad. I am putting that on Jay Gruden, it is on him and the staff to have us prepared for big games, and they clearly weren't. But it's not all on him, we still have a talent deficiency and that's on McC. Let's just give them another offseason to get their shit together and see where we're at after next year. Anything less than playoffs is obviously a disappointment.

Well he did not run anything in Green Bay. He was a scout. When we look at San Francisco he was released in 2010. Before they became really good, and alot of those defensive studs he helped acquire turned out to be nut jobs and criminals. Kaep had alot to do with their couple years of success. So did Harbaugh. If you really read between the lines you could make the case that he did very little for either of those teams?
Time will tell what he brings to the table here, but as it stands rite now it has been mediocre at best.

Two winning records in his first two seasons and a trip to the playoffs. You are correct, mediocre at best.

I guess in 2 years we needed to be SB bound to please some people. Oh well. Reality sucks.