In Scot we trust?

Not sure I agree that the other teams have dominated us in the draft. You're referencing a lot of first round picks. It's GOOD those worked out, because they definitely should. :)

I'll give credit to the Cowboys for finding Dak, but I think anyone who can game manage could have done the same thing. I think a lot of people also thought Elliott was the best back to come out in a long time.

I think Crowder is far superior to Shepard, even though Shepard is OK. I think we've been competitive in the draft since Scot's been here. If I really think about it, I can't say one team really has any huge edge.

I was just throwing out examples off the top of my head and Zeke was the only 1st rounder. We got a pro bowl guard at 5th overall and they got a league leading rusher with the #4 overall pick. Collins was a 2nd rounder, Dak a 4th rounder, Shepard a 3rd and Crowder a 4th. Even Gruden is questioning Scot's picks.

I'm all in on Scot and hope some of his other picks turn into good players, but it doesn't seem he's done anything but keep pace with our division rivals. Coming in, I thought he'd give us a big advantage, particularly in the later rounds. Plenty of questionable picks and the free agent decisions have been mediocre at best. That said, I hope he's our GM for years to come. I believe over the long term, he'll outperform the rest of our division and much of the NFC, if not the entire league.

I will agree with you on one point: it seems like every other team in the NFCE but us seems to get some HUGE cog in their team.

Giants got OBJ.
Cowboys got Zeke/Prescott (even though I really don't think he'll improve that much)
Eagles got Wentz.

We got an awesome guard. :D

Again, I don't think you can definitively say one team has crushed us. I'm with you, I do think we'll be MUCH better over the long term.

I will agree with you on one point: it seems like every other team in the NFCE but us seems to get some HUGE cog in their team.

Giants got OBJ.
Cowboys got Zeke/Prescott (even though I really don't think he'll improve that much)
Eagles got Wentz.

We got an awesome guard. :D

Again, I don't think you can definitively say one team has crushed us. I'm with you, I do think we'll be MUCH better over the long term.

Agreed. I think my bigger point was to keep the rest of the division in mind when we assess how Scot and his staff is or isn't doing. Maybe it does make sense to grade his performance in a vacuum, but if the rest of the division is doing better with their picks and free agent acquisitions then we're fighting an uphill battle. I want him to kick their assess when it comes to player personnel and think he will in the long run.

I was VERY disappointed when Scot traded down from our 4th round pick (120 overall) in the last draft, with NT Andrew Billings on the board. In return, we got New Orleans' 5th round pick (selecting Matt Ioannidis) and their 2017 5th rounder. Billings went 122 overall to Cincy, but was injured and spent the season on IR. Most graded Billings as 2nd round talent, so it would not have been a reach for Scot to use our original 4th round pick to fill a GLARING need - a true run-stopping interior lineman with elite strength. Don't know what he saw in Ioannidis, who is just a guy. I hope he proves me wrong and develops into the anchor in the middle of the line that Scot envisioned.

This team is too soft to even protect its own house!!! 4-4 at home is completely unacceptable for a team that saw itself on the rise going into 2016. Until McCloughan adds size, strength, and toughness in the trenches, expect more of the same.

Nope. Now since the defensive coaching staff has been kicked to the curb. I will expect better results with a few upgrades.

Dont forget speed on the edges, and guys who can friggin tackle!

Honestly I've seen improvement on missed tackles this year (but it felt like it couldn't get worse the year before).

Only Whitner and Compton were missing tackles on a regular basis.

Honestly I've seen improvement on missed tackles this year (but it felt like it couldn't get worse the year before).



Only Whitner and Compton were missing tackles on a regular basis.



No doubt it was better than last year and yes that was bottom of the barrel. Lol. Still need to improve.

Nope. Now since the defensive coaching staff has been kicked to the curb. I will expect better results with a few upgrades.



Of course that is what we said when Haslett left.
We need a damn guru.

This team is too soft to even protect its own house!!! 4-4 at home is completely unacceptable for a team that saw itself on the rise going into 2016. Until McCloughan adds size, strength, and toughness in the trenches, expect more of the same.

+1 ...sums up my feelings.

Build from the lines out.

The Whitner signing was an effing disaster. Anytime Cleveland doesn't want you then you might not want to bring that guy in. He looked like a 50 year old man in coverage.