Off season begins.

Estimated per year for short is 18 million alone.
Scot isn't gonna break the bank. He's smart. We'll upgrade the D but not with a ton of big deals.

Calais Campbell is a FA this year.
Hes 30 years old but I would plug him in over any of our current guys.

Dude I'm with you. He can do a lot along the line...slide inside or stand him up.

Jay wants Kirk back next year

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Scot isn't gonna break the bank. He's smart. We'll upgrade the D but not with a ton of big deals.

I agree, however there is no chance Short gets $18 million. He made $2.5 last year.

Campbell made $15 million last year. I am not paying $10+ million for a 30 year old D-lineman

Calais Campbell Contract Details, Salary Cap Charges, Bonus Money | Over The Cap (http://overthecap.com/player/calais-campbell/385/)

Here is a good list of 2017 free agents, it includes expiring contract and stats

NFL Free Agents and Free Agency (http://overthecap.com/free-agency/)

I agree, however there is no chance Short gets $18 million. He made $2.5 last year.

Campbell made $15 million last year. I am not paying $10+ million for a 30 year old D-lineman

Calais Campbell Contract Details, Salary Cap Charges, Bonus Money | Over The Cap (http://overthecap.com/player/calais-campbell/385/)

Kawann Short Contract Details, Salary Cap Breakdowns, Salaries, Bonuses | Spotrac (http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/carolina-panthers/kawann-short-12325/market-value/)

This is where I got the reference for short. I'd be shocked if Campbell left the cardinals...don't see it happening, but he is a baller.

Kawann Short Contract Details, Salary Cap Breakdowns, Salaries, Bonuses | Spotrac (http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/carolina-panthers/kawann-short-12325/market-value/)

This is where I got the reference for short. I'd be shocked if Campbell left the cardinals...don't see it happening, but he is a baller.

I think the 18 million estimate is high and misleading

If you look at Suh's contract it is back-loaded, so if you say X $ when only about half is guaranteed .They announced the contract as 6 years and $114 million dollars. (average $19 million a year) Suh's cap number for the first 3 years averages about $10 million .

I lost so much faith in KC and Gruden today.
The int - all things considered- was just one of the worst decisions I have ever seen a qb make.
At the end of the first half (CT i think it was) there was a nice gainer of about 15-20 yards? Moved us up around our own 40-45 if I remember correctly. He lets 20 seconds run off the clock with three timeouts- than we have another nice gainer and have to settle for a 57 yarder? We could have moved atleast ten yards closer. Those three points matter ? A little bit.
It was truly amazing to me that he did not use a timeout.
There is alot wrong with this team but I thought the whole Gruden KC thing was our foundation for great things to come.
I am no longer 100% sold on either one. Sucks.

I think the 18 million estimate is high and misleading

If you look at Suh's contract it is back-loaded, so if you say X $ when only about half is guaranteed .They announced the contract as 6 years and $114 million dollars. (average $19 million a year) Suh's cap number for the first 3 years averages about $10 million .

Short will sign an elite money deal for being one of the best in the league a d-tackle. The only way he takes less would be a "hometown" discount to stay in Carolina. Regardless of how it structured expect top 5 d tackle money.

Blakmon " we need some experience and leadership next year." This is a great point, we are still a pretty young team folks. We don't have guys that have true playoff experience other than garcon right? Norman last year but that's about it.

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Blakmon " we need some experience and leadership next year." This is a great point, we are still a pretty young team folks. We don't have guys that have true playoff experience other than garcon right? Norman last year but that's about it.

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Any more old leadership is going to come at the expense of your roster spot Blackmon. Leadership is nice, but you need actual bodies that can perform at a high level.