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punch it in
12-21-2016, 08:26 AM
Let him live in his la la land



Lol. You can say that again.....

FrenchSkin
12-21-2016, 12:14 PM
French, the problem was last night was a Home game against a 5-8 team. If the 'skins somehow manage to back into the playoffs, they will be up against much better competition.

Nothing we saw last night says that this team wants to extend their season.

We just don't have the horses this year...I don't think this team has any "magic" to pull out of a hat to start stopping decent offenses, let alone good ones.

That lost was ugly. Worst game of the year (or maybe second to the week 1 game vs the Steelers, don't would have to see that game again).

But it's a week to week league.

AND.

As bad as they looked, that game was a few plays away from being a W. I mean, as bad as they played, it still was a winnable game:

-one blown coverage by Donte Whitner: + 4 points Car
-one blown block by Vernon Davis: + 7 points Car
-one missed extra points: - 1 points Was
-one drop by Davis that would have been a TD: - 4 points Was

MTK
12-21-2016, 12:41 PM
Speaking of Whitner hot damn he's terrible in coverage.

Alvin Walton
12-21-2016, 12:46 PM
Whitner blows red baboon ass.

CrazyCanuck
12-21-2016, 03:00 PM
I agree for the most part, but I do believe that not making the playoffs, redzone stats, or being clutch against bad teams like the Panthers will come into negotiating.

Yes this is what I meant by his price coming down a bit.

I am a Kirk fan. He deserves to be paid and will be. I am worried we will fck it up because we have zero leverage. Off games like Carolina will give us at least a little bit of negotiating room. Otherwise Kirk can write his own cheque.

A second franchise tag is an option but a bad one. It's a huge cap hit and leads to bad blood. And what happens in 2018? Franchise again for $34M??

Skins will have to bite the bullet and pay the guy. If we try to get cute it will get ugly.

mooby
12-21-2016, 03:11 PM
Speaking of Whitner hot damn he's terrible in coverage.

Probably one of the reasons he couldn't cut it in Cleveland. He is nothing more than an emergency measure for us, seriously hope we get an upgrade next year.

MTK
12-21-2016, 03:44 PM
I agree for the most part, but I do believe that not making the playoffs, redzone stats, or being clutch against bad teams like the Panthers will come into negotiating.


The market sets the price, the team will have very little in terms of leverage. KC is in the driver's seat and both sides know it.

MTK
12-21-2016, 03:45 PM
Probably one of the reasons he couldn't cut it in Cleveland. He is nothing more than an emergency measure for us, seriously hope we get an upgrade next year.



He's never been a cover guy, but man that TD he got spun around on was just ugly. I still can't figure out what he was trying to do there.

Chico23231
12-21-2016, 04:02 PM
He's never been a cover guy, but man that TD he got spun around on was just ugly. I still can't figure out what he was trying to do there.

Whitner was totally ruining my high.

JPPT1974
12-21-2016, 05:11 PM
Really losing to a losing team like Carolina and at home. When the spotlight was on them. Really no excuse either way.

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