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metalskins
01-11-2017, 12:44 PM
I hate to see McVay go, but for some reason, it doesn't bother me as much as maybe it should. I think McVay has done a fantastic job, despite the red zone issues this year. And I think Gruden will miss him and have a hard time filling that void if McVay does go to the Rams. Having said that, I think Gruden can survive if he decides to take on the responsibility of calling plays. He could still hire another OC but still call plays himself. Does anybody know how much of the playcalling Gruden was a part of?

Chief X_Phackter
01-11-2017, 12:56 PM
Can't believe that McVay, at 30 years old, might get the Rams job. Frankly that shocks me.

He's going to have to go with Goff. He showed nothing as a rookie. The game was too fast for him. I wonder if he takes Colt with him...

Maybe he leaves Colt and takes Cousins with him :saywhat:

artmonkforhallofamein07
01-11-2017, 01:03 PM
One thing I do like about McVay getting that job as opposed to others is there won't be a push to bring Cousins along with him. Its another reason why I like Kyle getting the Denver job, they just moved up to draft a 1st round qb last year, which would make me think they wouldn't offer Cousins some dumb contract or have the picks to attempt a trade with us to acquire him.

I get McVay getting the opportunity I guess, but at the same time a little more seasoning may make me more comfortable. But the difference between OC and HC is pretty large. So hiring a guy on the basis of getting more out of the QB is tough to put on a HC. Look at the way this deal went the first year. Jay thought he could handle being the QB coach OC and HC. HE couldn't so he brought in a QB coach and gave McVay play calling duties. The idea that McVay could develop Goff from the HC title may be wishful thinking.

Schneed10
01-11-2017, 01:11 PM
If McVay goes to the Rams he's wedded to Jared Goff. Is that really what he wants?

If I were 30 and highly likely to end up with a head coaching gig at some point in the next 10 years I'd probably try to pick my spot a little better. You rarely get a new coaching job with a good QB situation, but you'd like to be able to pick or sign a guy soon after your arrival, for whom you can have a say in choosing. In LA it's either Goff or nobody.

I guess he's got Gurley. He'll have fun with that little toy once he gets the blocking schemes in better shape.

Schneed10
01-11-2017, 01:12 PM
One thing I do like about McVay getting that job as opposed to others is there won't be a push to bring Cousins along with him. Its another reason why I like Kyle getting the Denver job, they just moved up to draft a 1st round qb last year, which would make me think they wouldn't offer Cousins some dumb contract or have the picks to attempt a trade with us to acquire him.

I get McVay getting the opportunity I guess, but at the same time a little more seasoning may make me more comfortable. But the difference between OC and HC is pretty large. So hiring a guy on the basis of getting more out of the QB is tough to put on a HC. Look at the way this deal went the first year. Jay thought he could handle being the QB coach OC and HC. HE couldn't so he brought in a QB coach and gave McVay play calling duties. The idea that McVay could develop Goff from the HC title may be wishful thinking.

At what price would you be interested in trading Cousins?

Two firsts? Would you take it? If one of the firsts gave you a shot at Watson or Kizer?

I hate to even think that way because we're actually building something with Kirk. But is there a price that sways you?

Chief X_Phackter
01-11-2017, 01:47 PM
One thing I do like about McVay getting that job as opposed to others is there won't be a push to bring Cousins along with him. Its another reason why I like Kyle getting the Denver job, they just moved up to draft a 1st round qb last year, which would make me think they wouldn't offer Cousins some dumb contract or have the picks to attempt a trade with us to acquire him.

I get McVay getting the opportunity I guess, but at the same time a little more seasoning may make me more comfortable. But the difference between OC and HC is pretty large. So hiring a guy on the basis of getting more out of the QB is tough to put on a HC. Look at the way this deal went the first year. Jay thought he could handle being the QB coach OC and HC. HE couldn't so he brought in a QB coach and gave McVay play calling duties. The idea that McVay could develop Goff from the HC title may be wishful thinking.

Well, if he's as smart as everyone is saying he is, he won't put himself in a situation where he doesn't have a say with regard to who his QB is. If I were him, I wouldn't go somewhere where the management forces a QB on me and says "here, he's been average at best, fix him and make us great." That being said, maybe he thinks he can do something with Goff...

Chico23231
01-11-2017, 02:24 PM
ESPN's Adam Schefter reports if Redskins OC Sean McVay lands the Rams' head-coaching job, his top choice for defensive coordinator would be Wade Phillips.

That would be reason enough for the Rams to want to pull the trigger on McVay. On a serious note, Phillips obviously is one of the premier defensive minds in the league, even as he closes in on his 70th birthday. He's not expected back in Denver with Dolphins DC Vance Joseph looking extremely likely to land the head-coach job. We'd love to see Robert Quinn and Aaron Donald under Phillips' guidance. McVay is interviewing for the Rams' job for a second time Wednesday.

wow...getting screwed both ways. We have to be the dumbest organization not to have hired Wade when we had the chance.

celts32
01-11-2017, 02:28 PM
Maybe I am in the minority but I think I would fire Jay and promote McVay. McVay brings in Wade and keeps most of the offensive staff in place. Just not a believer in Gruden and feel like he is probably a year away from being fired anyway. Keeping McVay over Gruden ensures that we have the offense we need for Kirk in place for years. Plus he will hire a good DC...and we have seen what happens when that decision is left up to Jay.

It may sound crazy but it's not unlike what Tampa Bay and the Giants did last year.

MTK
01-11-2017, 03:07 PM
Well, Gruden isn't exactly a slouch when it comes to putting together an offense either, or developing QBs. It's how he got this job in the first place. Plus he's more proven and experienced than McVay.

skinsfan69
01-11-2017, 03:18 PM
I hate to see McVay go, but for some reason, it doesn't bother me as much as maybe it should. I think McVay has done a fantastic job, despite the red zone issues this year. And I think Gruden will miss him and have a hard time filling that void if McVay does go to the Rams. Having said that, I think Gruden can survive if he decides to take on the responsibility of calling plays. He could still hire another OC but still call plays himself. Does anybody know how much of the playcalling Gruden was a part of?

We have guys on staff that are plenty capable of taking over the OC job. Cavanaugh is a very experienced coach as is Callahan. Both could easily be the OC if Boy Wonder leaves.

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