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mooby
01-03-2017, 05:09 PM
Compton may be a fiery guy. I dont know, but he sucks. He cannot be a starter.

I like him and the fact he worked his way up from nothing, but think we could use an upgrade. Foster was ballin' yesterday but I think either of them could be replaced. The athleticism needs an upgrade. Find our next Fletcher. But I am getting ahead of myself, I think both safeties and defensive line are bigger needs. Especially if Baker wants a big deal and we won't give it to him.

metalskins
01-03-2017, 05:16 PM
I was going through the Profootball focus grades for the Oline...our 3 studs (silverblunted, Schreff and Moses) mostly all consistent with run and pass block. Louvao sucked at both but better run block.

But the real red flag for me was Spencer Long. He graded out as one of the best the pass blockers at Center. Guess what? One of the worst in the league at Run blocking. He was borderline terrible.

It needs to be addressed.

It's funny you mentioned Spencer Long. I remember seeing him on the play (I think where he got hurt) in Arizona where a counter run play was called. Long had the presence of mind to not only pull and block his assigned guy, but also chip another defender that freed Kelly for a long run. I thought to myself, "This is one thing I used to see on a regular basis with the Hogs!" Not saying Long is hog material, but how many linemen have that presence of mind to not only get their assigned guy blocked but to also help out and chip another defender at the same time? It seems like in recent years, we've seen (too often) guys who can't even get their assigned guys blocked correctly, let alone have the presence of mind to take care of their assignment and help out with getting other guys blocked as well. Or maybe I just haven't been paying enough attention?

Chico23231
01-03-2017, 05:16 PM
I like him and the fact he worked his way up from nothing, but think we could use an upgrade. Foster was ballin' yesterday but I think either of them could be replaced. The athleticism needs an upgrade. Find our next Fletcher. But I am getting ahead of myself, I think both safeties and defensive line are bigger needs. Especially if Baker wants a big deal and we won't give it to him.

Wil seemed to play worse as the season went on...Damn he missed a huge tackle on 3rd down which lead the big pass play at the end of the game the other day.

Chico23231
01-03-2017, 05:18 PM
It's funny you mentioned Spencer Long. I remember seeing him on the play (I think where he got hurt) in Arizona where a counter run play was called. Long had the presence of mind to not only pull and block his assigned guy, but also chip another defender that freed Kelly for a long run. I thought to myself, "This is one thing I used to see on a regular basis with the Hogs!" Not saying Long is hog material, but how many linemen have that presence of mind to not only get their assigned guy blocked but to also help out and chip another defender at the same time? It seems like in recent years, we've seen (too often) guys who can't even get their assigned guys blocked correctly, let alone have the presence of mind to take care of their assignment and help out with getting other guys blocked as well. Or maybe I just haven't been paying enough attention?

Long is a solid guy, but he has some room for improvement. Ive seen him get pushed back a lot on run blocking. Him and Luavao getting collapsed inside aint gonna cut it. Needs to get fixed.

mooby
01-03-2017, 05:26 PM
Long is a solid guy, but he has some room for improvement. Ive seen him get pushed back a lot on run blocking. Him and Luavao getting collapsed inside aint gonna cut it. Needs to get fixed.

I wouldn't mind an upgrade for Long but he's not tops on the priority list. Lauvao needs to be replaced first and then if there's an upgrade available they will look at center. If not then stick with Long another year and hope he gets stronger and works on his game.

metalskins
01-03-2017, 05:32 PM
Remember when Jeff Bostic was having that rough year in '87? He got pushed around a lot by that Giants defensive line. He was having such a rough year that Gibbs demoted him. Of course, Bostic had already proven that he was a solid Center prior to that year, but I mentioned Bostic simply because I think we have some solid guys on the line that are smart and have the potential to develop into top notch offensive linemen, but maybe they need more time in the weight room or more time at McDonald's? (Or both)

SFREDSKIN
01-03-2017, 07:42 PM
Whether you like him or not, other teams are interested.
Rams and 49ers for now.

49ers requested HC interview with Washington OC Sean McVay, per source.

Alvin Walton
01-03-2017, 08:01 PM
I'm not sold on Long by any means.
I would look for a center in the draft.

punch it in
01-03-2017, 08:16 PM
Whether you like him or not, other teams are interested.

Rams and 49ers for now.



49ers requested HC interview with Washington OC Sean McVay, per source.



Shocker its the Rams and Niners. That west coast air will make your brain foggy. [emoji6]
If he comes with Cousins, Reed, DJax, Crowder, Garcon, Davis, and CT they might have something on offense at least. Than they will just need to hire an OC that can finish the damn drive.
Seriously is it any wonder we were able to move between the 20's? Damn that is one hell of a set of pass catchers.

HTTR
01-03-2017, 08:32 PM
Shocker its the Rams and Niners. That west coast air will make your brain foggy. [emoji6]
If he comes with Cousins, Reed, DJax, Crowder, Garcon, Davis, and CT they might have something on offense at least. Than they will just need to hire an OC that can finish the damn drive.
Seriously is it any wonder we were able to move between the 20's? Damn that is one hell of a set of pass catchers.



Amazing group of receivers. Hard to believe we're 29th in RZ TD production, but that's also on our running game, especially in a tight box. Kinda agree that OC is the most likely culprit there, but as I posted in the KC thread, Kirk needs to shake off the yips in the red zone and take charge. The fades were not the only options on those horrid plays. Kirk seems to like them because they're low risk.

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