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I think it's great people are keeping their jobs, but let's skip the bullshit and call it what is is. $7 million in tax incentives to save 1000 jobs? Something doesn't add up. So what do we do now anytime a company threatens to move jobs? Bend over backwards and give them millions in tax breaks? Sounds like the usual story of the rich getting richer. More trickle down clowns.
If your link from earlier is correct it's 7million weighed against a pledge to invest 16million plus 1000 workers with income staying in the local community, not pulling even a day of unemployment/welfare from the government coffers.

Yes punch it is low hanging fruit but he isn't even in office yet and he convinced them to back off moving all the jobs. Yes it's Pence's home state but that makes sense because that gave Trump credibility that he could get the state to agree with the plan.

To your point Matty, if 7mill over 10 years gets 16mill over the same10 AND keeps 1000 jobs in a state that's a win win every time.

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No. It's not.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/posteverything/wp/2016/12/01/bernie-sanders-carrier-just-showed-corporations-how-to-beat-donald-trump/?utm_term=.1dd7fc167a6f

You will have to forgive me if I don't take a dyed in the wool socialist's advice on the best way to impact capitalistic behavior. I know I know. I'm a wild and crazy guy

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Carrier is tantamount to paying ransom. You are just begging for other companies to start thinking tax incentives. Trump said he was going to threaten these people during the campaign. This is an all time Smoke and mirrors.
And what about the 1300 jobs Carrier is still sending to Mexico? So take all of your calculations and cut them in less than half. Than would you sign up for that every day? In this case you are setting a dangerous precedent. So something isnt always better than nothing. Carrier got a huuuuuge tax break and still more than 50% of the work force is leaving. It is such fluff.
Such painfully evident throw the crowd a bone strategic crap move in the big picture.
Edit: just saw the bernie article. Say what u want about Bernie. Call him whatever you want. But he is spot on. I mean it is common fucking sense.
During campaign :
Trump - u leave ur dead to me and u will pay dearly to come back.
Now :
Trump - please ill pay u to keep 40 % of the jobs here?

Carrier is tantamount to paying ransom. You are just begging for other companies to start thinking tax incentives. Trump said he was going to threaten these people during the campaign. This is an all time Smoke and mirrors.
And what about the 1300 jobs Carrier is still sending to Mexico? So take all of your calculations and cut them in less than half. Than would you sign up for that every day? In this case you are setting a dangerous precedent. So something isnt always better than nothing. Carrier got a huuuuuge tax break and still more than 50% of the work force is leaving. It is such fluff.
Such painfully evident throw the crowd a bone strategic crap move in the big picture.
Edit: just saw the bernie article. Say what u want about Bernie. Call him whatever you want. But he is spot on. I mean it is common fucking sense.
During campaign :
Trump - u leave ur dead to me and u will pay dearly to come back.
Now :
Trump - please ill pay u to keep 40 % of the jobs here?
You are reacting off your gut. Look if it becomes the Oprah Winfrey show but with tax breaks (you get a million. You get a million every corporation gets a million) then it might be a bad thing. Again he isn't even president yet and maybe part of the conversations were you can choose this now or face a 35% tax once I am sworn in. I don't know how the negotiation went down.

I will stay with the fact that Baltimore just did a similar sweet deal to under armour and was getting praise by all the local Democrats. Jobs are rarely bad things to keep.

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I think it's great people are keeping their jobs, but let's skip the bullshit and call it what is is. $7 million in tax incentives to save 1000 jobs? Something doesn't add up. So what do we do now anytime a company threatens to move jobs? Bend over backwards and give them millions in tax breaks? Sounds like the usual story of the rich getting richer. More trickle down clowns.

I agree. How long will the jobs remain?Why are they still closing another plant and sending those jobs to Mexico?Why didn't Pence handle this himself as Governor instead of bringing Trump into the picture?What happens when the "next" company wants the same deal,or will they be told no becuase the parent company doesn't have DoD contracts to hold over their heads?

So apparently the current and former CEO's of Exxon are being considered for secretary of state? Wow. That is not scary at all considering how Scumbag feels about the environment. Wall St + Oil Companies + Donald "fucking scumbag" Trump = the new leaders of the free world.
God help us.

The tax incentives to Carrier are spread out over a period of I believe 10 years(?) but that also comes with a Carrier commitment to reinvestment that money within the state of Indiana with expansion efforts.

So its not like Carrier will claim a 7 million or whatever deduction at the end of the year. Or its not like when Obama administration negotiated with a state sponser of terror, Iran, for the hostages release and then immediately put 400 million on a plane sent it to them. Immediately then told the American people that was not related to the deal. Which the State department admitted a month later, absolutely was part of the deal.

So apparently the current and former CEO's of Exxon are being considered for secretary of state? Wow. That is not scary at all considering how Scumbag feels about the environment. Wall St + Oil Companies + Donald "fucking scumbag" Trump = the new leaders of the free world.
God help us.


He's draining the swamp and refilling it with toxic waste.

I remember when this was all said and done, I'm like, "OK, I'll wait and see."

This is a total, absolute shit-show.

I wonder how the people who voted for him are feeling about these choices and his statements regarding campaign promises?