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NC_Skins 01-19-2017, 10:47 AM It's useless man, bailout. I had to quite reading. It doesn't matter, message was sent by the people of the country...the presidency, congress, senate, and governorships. Boom.
Clinton got 3 million more votes than Trump did so exactly what message was sent by the American people? It tells me is they don't want Trump.
Backlash against the media and direction of country. They can rationalize it anyway they want...russia, Isis, terrorists, hacking our government, a culture of blame everyone for your problems except yourself, the biggest fucking national debt/budget hole of all time.......these problems flourish under the Obama administration, these aren't new issues, just the media looked the other way and wouldn't report on it. Welp, American people took notice
I've highlighted the biggest and most hypocritical statement in about 8 years. Isn't this exactly what the GOP has been doing the past 8 years? Absolutely right they have. Bush wasn't treated the way Obama was. The majority of America and Congress stood behind Bush, the same can't be said about Obama.
NC_Skins 01-19-2017, 10:56 AM Personally, I don't think it's an education thing as some like to say, as much as life conditions. The more sparsely populated an area, the more likely people tend to look to themselves first for answers and don't want outside interference, the more densely populated the more likely you are to look at an outside force (the politicals) to maintain a balance among clashes of people.
It's both. People in rural areas are going to be less educated because they don't have access to better education. The less educated you are, the more likely you will make bad decisions of issues. Most of these people live their lives based off of faith and religion. Sure life conditions play a part (note coal mining areas)
Representation should only matter in the people, not land mass. Who gives a shit if 6/8 of the country's land mass is "red", when the number of people in those areas don't even remotely touch the number of people in the denser populated areas. Should Wyoming (582k) have more say because it has more land mass or should New York (10million) large population. It's about the populace, and it always has been. SO showing charts with all red means little to nothing in the grand scheme of things.
CRedskinsRule 01-19-2017, 11:05 AM It's both. People in rural areas are going to be less educated because they don't have access to better education. The less educated you are, the more likely you will make bad decisions of issues. Most of these people live their lives based off of faith and religion. Sure life conditions play a part (note coal mining areas)
Representation should only matter in the people, not land mass. Who gives a shit if 6/8 of the country's land mass is "red", when the number of people in those areas don't even remotely touch the number of people in the denser populated areas. Should Wyoming (582k) have more say because it has more land mass or should New York (10million) large population. It's about the populace, and it always has been. SO showing charts with all red means little to nothing in the grand scheme of things.
I disagree with all of this. Shocking right??
Education in inner cities is not significantly better than rural areas. the rest of your first paragraph is a simply ridiculous attack.
100 people in an inner city block have a far different concern than 100 people living in a rural mile. Both concerns deserve weight and consideration, the US tries to balance both through multiple checks and balances. It has served us well through the years, not letting one group dominate the others, by preserving representation through various paths. That is important if the US is to remain a united country.
Chico23231 01-19-2017, 11:16 AM Clinton got 3 million more votes than Trump did so exactly what message was sent by the American people? It tells me is they don't want Trump.
I've highlighted the biggest and most hypocritical statement in about 8 years. Isn't this exactly what the GOP has been doing the past 8 years? Absolutely right they have. Bush wasn't treated the way Obama was. The majority of America and Congress stood behind Bush, the same can't be said about Obama.
Id say during the first 4 years of Bush, yes this is true and that's how he got a second term...a direct result of the handling of the 9/11 response. But the second term Bush was terrible and he didn't have the American people behind him. Certainly the media turned as well.
The major difference is the media rarely took a negative position against President Obama . National media never was critical, asked tough questions and was actually complicit with the administration. In the face of all these problems...that now people are mad about ( I wonder why? hmmm oh they loss)
its been night and day with the media with Bush vs Obama and it not close son. The American people may not have been behind the President, but the We never knew it, because the media never acknowledge or gave a voice to the silent majority. Zilch...That's why Trump is President, Congress and the Senate is Republican and the Republican own the Governorships. Why was everybody surprised?
But its funny, you don't acknowledge the national debt, Russia kicking Obama's Pussy around the world on multiple fronts, Genocide in Syria and Iraq, Major cybersecurity concerns against this country.....what about immigration policy failure, student debt reform, business tax reform, etc....
punch it in 01-19-2017, 11:19 AM Clearly rigged. Sad!
i just spit my coffee out. I fucking love how he always ends with an expletive adjective. Hysterical!
CRedskinsRule 01-19-2017, 11:21 AM Clinton got 3 million more votes than Trump did so exactly what message was sent by the American people? It tells me is they don't want Trump.
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66million to 63million. The message sent is that this country is historically divided.
The fact that neither candidate got close to 50% says that as a whole the country didn't want either major party candidate.
The fact that Trump won the electoral college says he gets to sit in the White House and be president.
The fact that Trump gets to be President, and the fact that the house and senate are both controlled by republicans says that the laws that are passed by both houses and sent to him will likely be signed into law.
That's the facts of how this country works. It's the same when the Democrats held both legislative houses and the presidency which last happened when Pres Obama took office.
punch it in 01-19-2017, 11:24 AM Just want to point out one small thing. As fucked up as it is that all people do not vote - they do not. If trumps people showed up than good for them. However voting polls do not necessarily reflect true numbers do they?
punch it in 01-19-2017, 11:33 AM I think trumpers felt more of an urgency to get out and vote. I think Clintons people thought it was in the bag and alot of them probably felt like it didn't make a difference if they got out.
#whoops. SAD!
CRedskinsRule 01-19-2017, 11:34 AM Just want to point out one small thing. As fucked up as it is that all people do not vote - they do not. If trumps people showed up than good for them. However voting polls do not necessarily reflect true numbers do they?
imo, polls generally are good but they can also be written to skew results. Assuming you have a well constructed poll, and the outcome surpasses the margin of error significantly, than that outcome is rock solid.
BUT, when you have polls that are less well constructed or even biased, OR, the results are close to the statistical margin of error, than those outcomes are shaky. They may tend to be statistically right, but the overall analysis of the outcomes probably will be more wrong then right, simply because the foundational truth (the poll result) is more subject to shifts in opinions.
NC_Skins 01-19-2017, 11:39 AM Education in inner cities is not significantly better than rural areas. the rest of your first paragraph is a simply ridiculous attack.
I didn't state inner cities had better education. I said rural areas just didn't have access to better education, and they don't. You can see the classes offered in small 1a/2a schools compared to 4a-6a schools. Poverty and socio-economic status plays a part in the quality of education you receive and have access to.
The rest of that paragraph was straight up truth whether you think it's an attack or not. You do realize I live in the Bible Belt right? Grew up in a Christian home, went to a Christian school, have had friends/family that still have the same mindset and faith. Not sure why you find that so hard to believe that people will put their faith/religion as a priority above anything. (especially when it comes to voting)
100 people in an inner city block have a far different concern than 100 people living in a rural mile. Both concerns deserve weight and consideration, the US tries to balance both through multiple checks and balances. It has served us well through the years, not letting one group dominate the others, by preserving representation through various paths. That is important if the US is to remain a united country.
Do tell me what far different concern inner city/suburban people have from rural people? The concerns are pretty much the same.
1) put food on the table for self and family
2) feel safe
3) Health
The lifestyles and culture is vastly different, but each human pretty much has the same concerns in life. That's the basic needs. Now, the means to how they are supplied could differ greatly, but not the concerns.
Yeah, we will disagree that a small minority of people's "beliefs" should outweigh a huge vast majority. It's not just inner city either, Arlington VA is a dense area, and highly populated. That doesn't mean it's inner city.
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