Chico23231
12-17-2016, 07:14 PM
So is this a case of everyone is doing it so we shouldn't be upset?
I'm well aware of the US having a storied history of meddling in other countries affairs, propping up false governments, assassinations, etc., but to have something happen here and to see so many people shrug their shoulders about it is very disappointing.
The Putin does whatever he wants because Obama and the Obama administration has failed miserably time and time again to curb the Russian influence and aggression throughout the world. Let's take account: Ukraine, Crimea, Syria, Snowden, NATO and the European Union, Iran and Russia coming arms deal: Iran and Russia Negotiating $10 Billion Arms Deal | The Diplomat (http://thediplomat.com/2016/11/iran-and-russia-negotiating-10-billion-arms-deal/)
And now the hacks during the election.
The most disappointing thing to me is why is Russia issue now? Dems always have their head buried in the sand until it's too late. Where was the outrage before?
Giantone
12-17-2016, 09:31 PM
I don't know. Chances are Trump would have screamed and hollered. But he basically said he would. President Obama and HC were strident that if he did it would have been a ridiculous attempt by a vain man and that there was no indication that the election results would be influenced by anyone.
The reason I point to President Obama's interview is because in it he says that from early September there was no more interference. That means that most of the hacking took place during the primaries. So this outrage now is just political showmanship like Trump's hollering and screaming would have been.
As an aside - Who would the Russians rather have in a 3way question - HC Bernie or Trump. We know for a fact that NOONE wants HC in a 3 way so I have to say that the Russians were preferring Bernie and Trump.
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See I disagree and I point to the New Oil deal that Russia was just a major part of,Putin likes Trump and visa versa.The people in this country will pay for that.
CRedskinsRule
12-17-2016, 09:56 PM
See I disagree and I point to the New Oil deal that Russia was just a major part of,Putin likes Trump and visa versa.The people in this country will pay for that.
I'm not sure which part you disagree with that the gas deal proves. I do agree gas is going up but that's because of Trump's promises to coal and fracking interests Russian and opec price fixing won't set the cost of gas for the US it will be around the profit point for fracking.
To be clear I think Trump will take a hard line with China and be more friendly to Russia. But I believe the Russian interference was directly related to Clinton Putin hates her and what she did as SoS (all the spring movements) and far less dependent on who the Republican candidate was.
Does it make it more palatable? Not really, but I think the Democratic outrage is pure politics to try and put spin on the transition.
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HailGreen28
12-18-2016, 09:08 AM
I'm not sure which part you disagree with that the gas deal proves. I do agree gas is going up but that's because of Trump's promises to coal and fracking interests Russian and opec price fixing won't set the cost of gas for the US it will be around the profit point for fracking.
To be clear I think Trump will take a hard line with China and be more friendly to Russia. But I believe the Russian interference was directly related to Clinton Putin hates her and what she did as SoS (all the spring movements) and far less dependent on who the Republican candidate was.
Does it make it more palatable? Not really, but I think the Democratic outrage is pure politics to try and put spin on the transition.
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Yeah, the amount of crying from democrats has been hysterical since the election. Everything will be spun the worst way possible now, especially by internet whiners and CNN/MSNBC/etc.
FlyerSkin
12-19-2016, 12:12 AM
Where the hell is the evidence of this
Russian hacking? The
CIA just said so? These liberals need any scapegoat they can grasp for just because they can't comprehend how their candidate pulled a
"Romney" by calling half the voters " deplorables", not too mention the corruption, and the wacky health episodes. No these reasons aren't why she lost, it is Russia's fault. Way to kill two birds with one stone. Deligitmize an incoming president and really get a new cold war going.
FlyerSkin
12-19-2016, 12:23 AM
See I disagree and I point to the New Oil deal that Russia was just a major part of,Putin likes Trump and visa versa.The people in this country will pay for that.
How will Americans pay dearly for better relations with Russia because of an oil deal? Ever sea a geological map of the Siberia oil/ gas fields? If
Exxon gets to drill there it might not be a bad thing at all. That is one huge gigantic oil reserve there man!!! I rather take Russian oil than continue to frack. Everywhere they frack, the water table is poisoned. The only folks who profit from a new cold war are the corporations of the industrial military complex.
Chico23231
01-01-2017, 09:46 AM
"Happy New Year to all, including to my many enemies and those who have fought me and lost so badly they just don't know what to do. Love!" Twitter trump
Lol...this guy is president. Sounds like the biggest prick
"Happy New Year to all, including to my many enemies and those who have fought me and lost so badly they just don't know what to do. Love!" Twitter trump
Lol...this guy is president. Sounds like the biggest prick
Doesn't surprise me, he is who he is, a big time jerk and immature as all hell. Just the type to run the free world, god help us.
I just hope I can learn to tune out his BS out for the next 4 years.
punch it in
01-03-2017, 10:18 AM
"Happy New Year to all, including to my many enemies and those who have fought me and lost so badly they just don't know what to do. Love!" Twitter trump
Lol...this guy is president. Sounds like the biggest prick
He is not just a jerk. He is mentally ill. He actually probably needs serious help.
Chico23231
01-03-2017, 12:15 PM
Ford cancels Mexico plant; calls it ‘vote of confidence’ for Trump | WTVR.com (http://wtvr.com/2017/01/03/ford-700-jobs-trump/)
Boom Trump strikes again!