Election Day

No Im just fed up with the direction of the country. Trump is a slimeball, but I have enjoyed the message that was sent very very much.



Great message - way wrong guy.
Also, just remember- the grass isnt always greener and be extremely careful what you wish for...
Edit: by great message I do not at all mean - deport people build walls or any of that nonsense. I just mean the message to the government that someone can reach the oval office from the masses if you will. Just of all the millions of choices people chose the slimiest one. Ugh

I apologize ,I never meant this thread to become what it has,it's purpose was to be light on a weird day.My opinion has been noted and I am done.There is no need to keep arguing with people I enjoy very much.:food-smil

I apologize ,I never meant this thread to become what it has,it's purpose was to be light on a weird day.My opinion has been noted and I am done.There is no need to keep arguing with people I enjoy very much.:food-smil



Don't apologize. This is way better than Facebook. Talk about a bloody battle field. Im losing friends right and left! Lol. Fuck em.

I apologize ,I never meant this thread to become what it has,it's purpose was to be light on a weird day.My opinion has been noted and I am done.There is no need to keep arguing with people I enjoy very much.:food-smil

dude, Im not mad at anyone here or if we have different views of things its extremely cool. I think here we are extremely cordial, sure there is a little frustration and bitterness about opinions, but nothing where folks are emotionally irate. I think its great we can talk about the differences about issues, that's what we are suppose to do, right?

If you drift off to other media and political sites, the insane anger and hatefulness is cra-cra.

I have no problem with anybody here...in fact if someone goes, Chico your an b*tcha$$ p(meow)y mutherf******er....my first thought is well I probably deserved that.

dude, Im not mad at anyone here or if we have different views of things its extremely cool. I think here we are extremely cordial, sure there is a little frustration and bitterness about opinions, but nothing where folks are emotionally irate. I think its great we can talk about the differences about issues, that's what we are suppose to do, right?



If you drift off to other media and political sites, the insane anger and hatefulness is cra-cra.



I have no problem with anybody here...in fact if someone goes, Chico your an b*tcha$$ p(meow)y mutherf******er....my first thought is well I probably deserved that.



Amen.

This election wasn't about whether trump is a meanie or a nice dude. It was about years of neglect for the lower middle class in the middle of this country on the part of DC politicians. The one person charismatic enough and outsider enough came along and said "drain the swamp" and every factory worker sitting on their couch looking for a new job said "Finally!" It didn't matter that he's an asshole. They voted in spite of that. The same message from someone equally as media savvy with a better reputation and a nicer demeanor would have made this a blowout across the board.


A quality post and one that most reflects the truth about this election. People that voted for Trump did so knowing he was a sexist, racist bigot that had no business being a President. In exit polls 2/3 of the people that voted for him said that they knew he was unqualified to be the President. So why vote for him you think? Well, because for all of his faults, he was a political outsider that the system fought against. This same system that has fucked the middle class American families the past 30 years while our politicians continue to allow corporations to ship jobs overseas and to evade taxes. Trump was the conservative equal to the Democratic's Bernie. He represented a change, and one that went against the system that's fucked them over.

Now lets switch over to Clinton. Here we have middle class families still hurting from the banking crisis, and the one person the Dems trot out is cozy with Wall Street bankers and who supports another shitty trade pact that's going to send more jobs overseas. Not to mention the pay to play Clinton foundation while she was secretary of state, or the email fiasco, or even the rigging of the primaries against Bernie. She represented the very system they hated.

This election was over the moment that Clinton was nominated. The left was just too stupid to think otherwise, and the more they countered with negative ads and media endorsements, the stronger Trump's support gained. Frankly, I've talked to too many Trump voters that flat out said they would have voted for Bernie over Trump because they thought Bernie was a decent man who also fought the system and wasn't really worried about his policies with a standing congress. Make no mistake, many Trump voters aren't happy they had to vote Trump.

I voted Johnson personally.

A quality post and one that most reflects the truth about this election. People that voted for Trump did so knowing he was a sexist, racist bigot that had no business being a President. In exit polls 2/3 of the people that voted for him said that they knew he was unqualified to be the President. So why vote for him you think? Well, because for all of his faults, he was a political outsider that the system fought against. This same system that has fucked the middle class American families the past 30 years while our politicians continue to allow corporations to ship jobs overseas and to evade taxes. Trump was the conservative equal to the Democratic's Bernie. He represented a change, and one that went against the system that's fucked them over.



Now lets switch over to Clinton. Here we have middle class families still hurting from the banking crisis, and the one person the Dems trot out is cozy with Wall Street bankers and who supports another shitty trade pact that's going to send more jobs overseas. Not to mention the pay to play Clinton foundation while she was secretary of state, or the email fiasco, or even the rigging of the primaries against Bernie. She represented the very system they hated.



This election was over the moment that Clinton was nominated. The left was just too stupid to think otherwise, and the more they countered with negative ads and media endorsements, the stronger Trump's support gained. Frankly, I've talked to too many Trump voters that flat out said they would have voted for Bernie over Trump because they thought Bernie was a decent man who also fought the system and wasn't really worried about his policies with a standing congress. Make no mistake, many Trump voters aren't happy they had to vote Trump.



I voted Johnson personally.



No doubt. Bernie would have won in a landslide. Pretty ironic that Hillary was Trumps biggest asset getting to the White house.
Oh well. He will expose his inabilities and I will sit back, eat my popcorn, and watch these Trumpeters in their "oh crap what have I done moment".
I would love to say that this new regime will do a 180, but me thinks I have a better chance of finding a real live leprechaun holding a four leaf clover while riding a unicorn.

ill peak at that when I get home...I just think with the available technology maybe a physical barrier isn't needed. I surely think we could do a better job. Are folks saying we cant do something? interesting.

Why do you think people who want to immigrate into a country and then don't want to follow the immigration law...why cant they just follow the rules? Do you think its ok for people to generally to break a federal law within the first couple minutes of arriving in the country by steppin across the border? How should we feel as citizens about this?

U asking me? I am just telling yo ua wall will be difficult. Unless we build the 8th wonder of the world probably not going be a wall.

So if we don't build a wall, are you saying your currently satisfied with the security of the border? Your satisfied with the flow of undocumented folks coming across the border? With the flow of drugs and human trafficking? Human trafficking is big business for bad hombres. What about American Citizens living along the border? Pretty much eff them? Those folks don't deserve the security?

Im kinda lost with folks who think we shouldn't secure the border. So are you good with people just walking through your own property...what about if they are carrying drugs and guns?

Definitely not. I'm moderate when it comes to immigration. I think we need to tighten our borders for sure, but also don't think we should be hunting down and shipping out hundreds of thousands of people. Border control is one of the more complex issues for me. While I will agree with one idea that's maybe more liberal, I will also agree with a more conservative idea.

For me, the whole idea was just flat-out stupid. In addition to the logistics, it just flat out wouldn't work.

Voter turnout for the past 3 elections.

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