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mredskins
09-19-2016, 01:07 PM
thru the first 3 weeks last season we were 1-2, kirk had 3 tds and 4 ints.

again, the sky is not falling. our division is weak. we can get on track.

We win next week and I am right there with you. I say next week is do or die for this team/ KC.

los panda
09-19-2016, 01:08 PM
AR having two bad games is way different then KC having two bad games. AR has a wall of past accomplishments, KC the jury is still out.

I am not saying KC is trash but he is going be a up and down guy for his whole career. The past two games it looks like his demons are coming back.

he started 2015 1-2, 3 tds and 4 ints in those games.

he finished 9-7, 29 tds and 11 ints.

los panda
09-19-2016, 01:09 PM
We win next week and I am right there with you. I say next week is do or die for this team/ KC.

that's my message, it's too early to gouge our eyes out.

Chico23231
09-19-2016, 01:09 PM
aaron rodgers has had 2 off games to start this season, they barely beat the jags and just lost to the vikings.

2 games is a drop in the bucket, stop calling for kirk's head. bad games happen to the great ones too.

i'll reserve my judgement for the end of the season.

That's the thing, we don't have Aaron Rodgers so stop trying to run an offense like mike McCarthy's. Cousins isn't Rodgers, its not close.

KI Skins Fan
09-19-2016, 01:21 PM
Admittedly, KC did leave some throws on the field. But to put the game entirely on his shoulders is uncalled for.

It was only 3 points, but Washington was playing in the 4th quarter with the lead. Why did Matt Jones only get 13 touches the whole game?

Dallas gave Washington a very short field on consecutive possessions. Botched on-side kick, then, Elliot fumbled. 2 short fields and yielded only 2 field goals.

After the interception, Dallas goes on 11 play 80 yard drive. Defense had 10 plays and 80 yards to stop them.

Dallas offense had 5 scoring drives. 4 of which were 75 yards and greater (76, 94, 75, 80).

The defense and offensive play calling left just as much on the field as people are accusing KC of doing.

I don't discount any of your points, Jack; however, this was a game between two teams with many of the same strengths and weaknesses except for what should have been one clear advantage for the Skins - the QB position. The Skins started a $20MM five-year QB who lead his team to the playoffs last season while the Cowboys started a rookie QB who was playing his second NFL game. If Kirk Cousins had taken charge and made the plays he needed to make, the game would have turned out differently.

No QB should be paid $20MM just to "do his part" or "manage a game". When all else is essentially even between two teams, a $20MM QB must win that game. Is it about the money for me? In a sense, it is. It is about the quality of play to be expected from a QB who is trusted enough to be paid that much.

I'm not down on Kirk. At this point, he just needs to step up and lead us to victory vs. the Giants. It can and must be done.

mredskins
09-19-2016, 01:27 PM
he started 2015 1-2, 3 tds and 4 ints in those games.

he finished 9-7, 29 tds and 11 ints.
the thing is this schedule compared to last years 2nd half schedule is much much harder.

I mean we play CLE for 16 games Iam sure we are all going to think KC is the next great thing.

KC has won some games and put that nice string together against inferior teams. Name me one big game KC has one against a legit top 5 - 10 NFL team?

The worst scenario with KC is if he keeps being a flash in the pan here and there. Good enough to keep us from trying to upgrade the QB position but not good enough for us to reach the next level.

KC either shit the bed or do something great; us Skins fans ain't got time for your back and fourth shit.

sdskinsfan2001
09-19-2016, 01:32 PM
Positives:
Norman
Cravens (he looks like he might be one the best 10-20 players from the draft)
Matt Jones
O-line play (outside of C)

Negative:
Offensive play calling
Defensive play calling
Cousins

If Cousins has to throw the ball more than 20 yards down the field I honestly don't think he has any idea where it's going. And this hasn't got any better. I mean he threw the hail Mary out of the end zone for petes sakes.

We have no elite players in the front 7. A few solid players and then just some guys. I hope Preston keeps getting better, but we need to find a way to add some multi-year pro bowl caliber players to the front 7.

Chico23231
09-19-2016, 01:38 PM
Worried about Cousins' confidence...watching how he responds will be crucial this weekend.

KI Skins Fan
09-19-2016, 01:40 PM
the thing is this schedule compared to last years 2nd half schedule is much much harder.

I mean we play CLE for 16 games Iam sure we are all going to think KC is the next great thing.

KC has won some games and put that nice string together against inferior teams. Name me one big game KC has one against a legit top 5 - 10 NFL team?

The worst scenario with KC is if he keeps being a flash in the pan here and there. Good enough to keep us from trying to upgrade the QB position but not good enough for us to reach the next level.

KC either shit the bed or do something great; us Skins fans ain't got time for your back and fourth shit.

Schedule, schmedule! The schedule always looks different during the season than it did before the season due to injuries or whatever. Yes, we need to play better but, as far as I know, there is no rule against beating a team or two that is better than you on paper. There is even a week nicknamed "Upset Sunday".

We just lost a game we should have won - on paper. Now, we need to win a game or two that we have no business winning - on paper.

sdskinsfan2001
09-19-2016, 01:48 PM
the thing is this schedule compared to last years 2nd half schedule is much much harder.

I mean we play CLE for 16 games Iam sure we are all going to think KC is the next great thing.

KC has won some games and put that nice string together against inferior teams. Name me one big game KC has one against a legit top 5 - 10 NFL team?

The worst scenario with KC is if he keeps being a flash in the pan here and there. Good enough to keep us from trying to upgrade the QB position but not good enough for us to reach the next level.

KC either shit the bed or do something great; us Skins fans ain't got time for your back and fourth shit.

"The worst scenario with KC is if he keeps being a flash in the pan here and there. Good enough to keep us from trying to upgrade the QB position but not good enough for us to reach the next level."

Agree 100%, this is my biggest fear, being mired in the limbo of mediocrity.

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