mooby
09-25-2020, 06:06 AM
1. So unnecessary to add that part.
2. I had to take a law class in college. I'll always remember this: You can sue anyone for anything. Doesn't mean you'll win. People use lawsuits way too often. It's rather embarrassing. Don't care who does it.
I think we could both agree all the states that don't have pre-trial standards of evidence (to prevent frivolous lawsuits specifically designed to hurt innocent people's pockets) need to pass laws that will throw out lawsuits like those. I believe it was John Oliver who did a special on it:
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Chico23231
09-25-2020, 08:09 AM
Refreshing to hear logical thought and reasoning from Charles Barkley and Shaq...
When I actually read the evidence of Taylor death, I couldn’t believe the media and BLM had lied they entire time about this case. It’s tragic, but police knocking and announced they were at the door and receive gun shots...you fucked up big time
BaltimoreSkins
09-25-2020, 12:45 PM
Refreshing to hear logical thought and reasoning from Charles Barkley and Shaq...
When I actually read the evidence of Taylor death, I couldn’t believe the media and BLM had lied they entire time about this case. It’s tragic, but police knocking and announced they were at the door and receive gun shots...you fucked up big time
I agree with what Shaq and Barkley said but you do have some facts wrong. It was a no knock warrant so there was no announcement. To me it is frustrating that we have a situation in which an innocent person was killed and there is no accountability. This probably needs to go into police reform but the habits that we view as acceptable police practices need to change. It puts our police in bad situations that are easily avoidable. Serving no knock warrants at 1:00 am in states where they have castle defense laws in place, serving no knock warrants at residents where a law abiding registered gun holder is sleeping. These are all avoidable and should be policy and Taylor would be alive. We would never tolerate a teacher working one on one with a student after school, or a surgeon being on call for 72 hours but for some reason this is viewed as acceptable in police departments.
Chico23231
09-25-2020, 01:28 PM
I agree with what Shaq and Barkley said but you do have some facts wrong. It was a no knock warrant so there was no announcement. To me it is frustrating that we have a situation in which an innocent person was killed and there is no accountability. This probably needs to go into police reform but the habits that we view as acceptable police practices need to change. It puts our police in bad situations that are easily avoidable. Serving no knock warrants at 1:00 am in states where they have castle defense laws in place, serving no knock warrants at residents where a law abiding registered gun holder is sleeping. These are all avoidable and should be policy and Taylor would be alive. We would never tolerate a teacher working one on one with a student after school, or a surgeon being on call for 72 hours but for some reason this is viewed as acceptable in police departments.
This is the problem and where the public (including myself) has been mislead. Neighbor has submitted under witness testimony that they heard the police announce themselves. Also the police did knock...Kenneth Walker admitted he heard knocking 30-45 seconds. Finally, people keep saying Taylor was killed in her sleep, this is not true, it’s been confirmed she was awake.
I had been under the impression, the police didn’t announce, knock and came in the door looking to execute the warrant. Also I’d heard many time Taylor was asleep. The media has again failed us, wanting to provide a false narrative to support a side. It’s as dangerous as bad police work.
I don’t have answers too why there is extremely shoddy police work or why they chose 12:53 am...it’s disturbing. I hope changes will be made.
Chico23231
10-06-2020, 08:08 PM
https://www.dailywire.com/news/nbc-portrayed-voters-at-biden-town-hall-as-undecided-a-deeper-look-paints-a-different-picture
NBC Portrayed Voters At Biden Town Hall As ‘Undecided.’ A Deeper Look Paints A Different Picture.
JFC...NBC is bullshit propaganda. Blatant dishonesty yet again.
mooby
10-06-2020, 08:34 PM
I agree with what Shaq and Barkley said but you do have some facts wrong. It was a no knock warrant so there was no announcement. To me it is frustrating that we have a situation in which an innocent person was killed and there is no accountability. This probably needs to go into police reform but the habits that we view as acceptable police practices need to change. It puts our police in bad situations that are easily avoidable. Serving no knock warrants at 1:00 am in states where they have castle defense laws in place, serving no knock warrants at residents where a law abiding registered gun holder is sleeping. These are all avoidable and should be policy and Taylor would be alive. We would never tolerate a teacher working one on one with a student after school, or a surgeon being on call for 72 hours but for some reason this is viewed as acceptable in police departments.
I just don't understand why the 2A supporters and/or the NRA don't step up. Intruders burst in the home at 1 am and a gun owner defends themselves, this is literally every 2a supporter's wet dream.
SunnySide
10-07-2020, 10:02 AM
This is the problem and where the public (including myself) has been mislead. Neighbor has submitted under witness testimony that they heard the police announce themselves. Also the police did knock...Kenneth Walker admitted he heard knocking 30-45 seconds. Finally, people keep saying Taylor was killed in her sleep, this is not true, it’s been confirmed she was awake.
I had been under the impression, the police didn’t announce, knock and came in the door looking to execute the warrant. Also I’d heard many time Taylor was asleep. The media has again failed us, wanting to provide a false narrative to support a side. It’s as dangerous as bad police work.
I don’t have answers too why there is extremely shoddy police work or why they chose 12:53 am...it’s disturbing. I hope changes will be made.
Body cameras not being on during a no-knock search warrant is inexcusable. That is a huge red flag.
No knock warrant reform is something I think most americans can agree on. I wouldnt make a total ban on them bc there are some bad armed people out there but I would require surveillance to confirm the target is actually at the location before a no-knock warrant can be executed. Judges need to stop signing off on search warrants like its candy.
I actually spent a year reviewing search warrant applications in Montgomery County and they all got signed off on.
In Breona's case, their target had moved out months prior .. all the police had to do was a little bit of surveillance to confirm.
No knock warrants can effect anyone. I had a case where the swat team executed a no knock warrant on like 6701 Street when it was supposed to be 6710 Street. Grandmother shot, she lived. I switched firms before the case was resolved but i imagine qualified immunity as the police were acting under "good faith" but made an accident
Chico23231
10-07-2020, 10:19 AM
The biggest red flag is this, after the Kentucky AG did something never/rarely done...released grand jury evidence including recordings (!) last Friday....the story has fallen off the map.
Why?
Because the evidence proves the narratives were false. The warrant may have been a no-knock, it was not treated as a no knock. Even the pre-meeting police sheet they stated and did not check the box as no knock. Testimony...neighbor heard the police announcement, and the guy who shot the police officer testified he heard the police knocking 45 seconds to 1 minute.
I know we are grasping for anything now as BLM and the media lied for months over the facts
SunnySide
10-07-2020, 10:31 AM
The biggest red flag is that a young INNOCENT woman was shot dead in her home because of a police mistake.
You hammer the media bias narrative but if the police had activated their body cameras there would be no guessing as to what happened.
KY AG only released some of the GJ stuff because he said after the lone indictment that the GJ also decided no charges for murder were correct.
That comment prompted a grand juror to say "whoa .. were were never given the option to indict the officers who shot and killed Breona. The only indictment we were asked to decide on was for shooting into the neighbors apartment".
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The most important point is that an innocent woman was killed by sloppy police work. Chico, I think you would agree with that.
Chico23231
10-07-2020, 10:35 AM
The biggest red flag is that a young INNOCENT woman was shot dead in her home because of a police mistake.
You hammer the media bias narrative but if the police had activated their body cameras there would be no guessing as to what happened.
KY AG only released some of the GJ stuff because he said after the lone indictment that the GJ also decided no charges for murder were correct.
That comment prompted a grand juror to say "whoa .. were were never given the option to indict the officers who shot and killed Breona. The only indictment we were asked to decide on was for shooting into the neighbors apartment".
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The most important point is that an innocent woman was killed by sloppy police work. Chico, I think you would agree with that.
I would agree with sloppy police work if you agree the media and BLM lied repeatedly about the facts of the case in order to push a false narrative.