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Giantone 08-31-2018, 04:50 PM shocking that it's the abc/wapo poll - which might tend a little biased one way, another one, Rasmussen (that biases the other way), has his approval hovering around 48 or 49%
RCP POLLS (https://realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/president_trump_job_approval-6179.html#polls) does a great job of tracking the individual polls and running averages. AND when you focus in on the economy, the results show he's getting decent credit for "obama's economy"
( I hate cut and pasting tables on this site!!)
also from RCP - President Obama's approval - 2014 :
Really, that is the best you can do ....an Obama deflection???
As I said before the media is not as bias as you are.
CRedskinsRule 08-31-2018, 05:26 PM Really, that is the best you can do ....an Obama deflection???
As I said before the media is not as bias as you are.
It's not an Obama deflection, it's an equivalence, you want to go pull a Bush poll? You can't say a president is in serious trouble, when the president before him had an equivalently poor unfavorable rating at the same point in his term. Sorry you can't understand the simplest comparisons.
You are correct about the fact that I am biased and I acknowledge my bias, let CNN and others who have waged all out media war on those in this country who believe in being fiscally conservative ideals and in US exceptionalism, acknowledge their socialist liberal leanings but they don't. And they won't.
Have I ever declared myself non-partisan?? No. I hold strong conservative and libertarian beliefs, I believe the Constitution and the first 10 amendments are the greatest single establishment of government this world has ever witnessed. I think that the US government has simple fundamental duties expressly designed to LIMIT the federal power. AND, I believe that liberalism, and it's inherent lean towards socialism and federal power will in the long run doom that Constitution if enough people fall for the media chirping.
Giantone 08-31-2018, 07:05 PM It's not an Obama deflection, it's an equivalence, you want to go pull a Bush poll? You can't say a president is in serious trouble, when the president before him had an equivalently poor unfavorable rating at the same point in his term. Sorry you can't understand the simplest comparisons.
You are correct about the fact that I am biased and I acknowledge my bias, let CNN and others who have waged all out media war on those in this country who believe in being fiscally conservative ideals and in US exceptionalism, acknowledge their socialist liberal leanings but they don't. And they won't.
Have I ever declared myself non-partisan?? No. I hold strong conservative and libertarian beliefs, I believe the Constitution and the first 10 amendments are the greatest single establishment of government this world has ever witnessed. I think that the US government has simple fundamental duties expressly designed to LIMIT the federal power. AND, I believe that liberalism, and it's inherent lean towards socialism and federal power will in the long run doom that Constitution if enough people fall for the media chirping.
Great speech, Bravo !!! I am all for your right to have different political beliefs than mine or anyone's.
But your argument that I can't pull a poll that says 60% of American doesn't trust the president is BS . We are not talking Obama here ,this is all about trump and his ignorance and the fact that his cult is running out of excuse's for him,hell they are just ignoring his corruption at a great cost to this country but hey ........fuck America at least trump is president,right?
sdskinsfan2001 09-01-2018, 02:49 AM Great speech, Bravo !!! I am all for your right to have different political beliefs than mine or anyone's.
But your argument that I can't pull a poll that says 60% of American doesn't trust the president is BS . We are not talking Obama here ,this is all about trump and his ignorance and the fact that his cult is running out of excuse's for him,hell they are just ignoring his corruption at a great cost to this country but hey ........fuck America at least trump is president,right?
Do you get a dollar everytime you say cult? Geez louise, every post of yours is the exact same. I wouldn't discuss what light beer is the worst with you.
CRedskinsRule 09-01-2018, 09:05 AM Do you get a dollar everytime you say cult? Geez louise, every post of yours is the exact same. I wouldn't discuss what light beer is the worst with you.
What is funny, is that his repeated mantra like calls of cultism are far more cult-like behavior than me, or anyone else, expressing our opinions in support of a politician or political policies.
s/n, always remember he is a self proclaimed Republican so take everything with a grain of salt.
Giantone 09-01-2018, 09:14 AM What is funny, is that his repeated mantra like calls of cultism are far more cult-like behavior than me, or anyone else, expressing our opinions in support of a politician or political policies.
s/n, always remember he is a self proclaimed Republican so take everything with a grain of salt.
#triggered :lol:
sdskinsfan2001 09-01-2018, 11:58 AM [/QUOTE]s/n, always remember he is a self proclaimed Republican so take everything with a grain of salt.[/QUOTE]
And I'm actually Elvis reincarnated.
Giantone 09-01-2018, 12:27 PM s/n, always remember he is a self proclaimed Republican so take everything with a grain of salt.[/QUOTE]
And I'm actually Elvis reincarnated.[/QUOTE]
See, ..now that is cool!
Giantone 09-01-2018, 12:34 PM What is funny, is that his repeated mantra like calls of cultism are far more cult-like behavior than me, or anyone else, expressing our opinions in support of a politician or political policies.
Again you go the trump cult way and use "alternative facts". It would be wonderful if you expressed your political opinions but you don't you and chico both stand by trump and refuse to ever acknowledge anything he has done wrong..............never have you once said trump was wrong . Yeah it's a cult and there isn't any spin or insult you can through out there to change it.
CRedskinsRule 09-01-2018, 01:22 PM Again you go the trump cult way and use "alternative facts". It would be wonderful if you expressed your political opinions but you don't you and chico both stand by trump and refuse to ever acknowledge anything he has done wrong..............never have you once said trump was wrong . Yeah it's a cult and there isn't any spin or insult you can through out there to change it.
I actually understand how you could think that from the interactions on the Warpath, but it's not really the case. I am disappointed by the failure to create outreaches to LGBT community and the inner cities. I would rather that he push forward with marijuana legalization rather then letting the DOJ impede it. Believe it or not, I disagree with him about military spending, but bottomline, none of my disagreements outweigh the majority of the policies that I do agree with.
As for Trump personally, I don't like him, and I wish there had been a libertarian voice that could have implemented the fiscal and regulatory policies I agree with, while also protecting every citizen's freedoms. The Libertarian candidate looked promising until their convention and his Aleppo fiasco. Back to Trump, as a speaker, I can barely listen to Trump's self-aggrandizement style, and I look at most of his tweeting/rhetoric as just that political rhetoric, not written policy statements.
But I do agree with a lot of his fiscal and regulatory policies, and I defend him here on those, because those are important to me, and there are more than enough voices that throw out the negatives.
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