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CRedskinsRule 07-15-2018, 11:02 AM Which WH was more combative and outwardly negative towards the media? Trump came out swinging from day 1.
I agree on that, with one addendum. It didn't start with this administration. There had been a deteriorating condition in this country over the past 12 years as the politicians on both sides became more partisan, and the concept of moderation over the internet became less the norm and hyper partisanship has taken over.
Giantone 07-15-2018, 05:04 PM I would be interested to see the number of negative articles toward Obama on Fox vs the equivalent number of negative articles toward Trump on CNN.
I would speculate the numbers would be even or CNNs would outnumber Foxs. Especially in the first 2 years.
Again I will ask, becuase it is negative or leans "left" does it make it "FAKE"?
CRedskinsRule 07-15-2018, 05:57 PM Again I will ask, becuase it is negative or leans "left" does it make it "FAKE"?No. It can and does happen on right-leaning outlets and left-leaning sources.
Chico23231 07-23-2018, 08:38 PM https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-russia-butina-exclusive/exclusive-accused-russian-agent-butina-met-with-us-treasury-fed-officials-idUSKBN1KC0DC
Reuters broke a story that this Russian spy met with 2 high obama officials in 2015...
Can someone tell me why the NYT, Washington post, la times, nbc news who have run multiple stories attempting to connect her to trump...somehow overlooked the this timeline and this major story?
This is why they are fake news...because whose to say they knew and never reported this? If these are the supposed top news journalists in the world...we would expect Reuters to report this over the others?
And now they are not mentioning this story? Doesn’t it seem strange? They cherry pick the facts to make up the narrative they want folks.
mooby 07-23-2018, 08:56 PM https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-russia-butina-exclusive/exclusive-accused-russian-agent-butina-met-with-us-treasury-fed-officials-idUSKBN1KC0DC
Reuters broke a story that this Russian spy met with 2 high obama officials in 2015...
Can someone tell me why the NYT, Washington post, la times, nbc news who have run multiple stories attempting to connect her to trump...somehow overlooked the this timeline and this major story?
This is why they are fake news...because whose to say they knew and never reported this? If these are the supposed top news journalists in the world...we would expect Reuters to report this over the others?
And now they are not mentioning this story? Doesn’t it seem strange? They cherry pick the facts to make up the narrative they want folks.
Well let's see. The Reuters article was posted yesterday.
A quick Google search brings up:
Wall St. Journal has picked it up (https://www.wsj.com/articles/alleged-russian-agent-maria-butina-was-at-2015-meeting-with-top-fed-official-1532300577)
CNN has picked it up (https://www.cnn.com/2018/07/23/politics/maria-butina-treasury-officials/index.html)
CBS News has picked it up (https://www.cbsnews.com/news/report-accused-russian-spy-maria-butina-met-with-treasury-fed-reserve-officials-in-2015/)
New York Times ran it as an exclusive two days ago (https://www.nytimes.com/reuters/2018/07/22/world/europe/22reuters-usa-russia-butina-exclusive.html)
CNBC ran it yesterday (https://www.cnbc.com/2018/07/22/accused-russian-agent-butina-met-with-us-treasury-and-fed-officials.html)
And MSN (my main source) seems to be broken right now so I'll give them a pass, but I expect to see something on there about it when it comes back up.
CRedskinsRule 07-23-2018, 09:18 PM Well let's see. The Reuters article was posted yesterday.
A quick Google search brings up:
Wall St. Journal has picked it up (https://www.wsj.com/articles/alleged-russian-agent-maria-butina-was-at-2015-meeting-with-top-fed-official-1532300577)
CNN has picked it up (https://www.cnn.com/2018/07/23/politics/maria-butina-treasury-officials/index.html)
CBS News has picked it up (https://www.cbsnews.com/news/report-accused-russian-spy-maria-butina-met-with-treasury-fed-reserve-officials-in-2015/)
New York Times ran it as an exclusive two days ago (https://www.nytimes.com/reuters/2018/07/22/world/europe/22reuters-usa-russia-butina-exclusive.html)
CNBC ran it yesterday (https://www.cnbc.com/2018/07/22/accused-russian-agent-butina-met-with-us-treasury-and-fed-officials.html)
And MSN (my main source) seems to be broken right now so I'll give them a pass, but I expect to see something on there about it when it comes back up.
don't use a google search, go to each site's main page, then navigate to that story. Tell me how easy it is to find WITHOUT the search, in other words what the normal site goer might see.
CNN had it on their main page
WSJ had it on their politics page
msnbc didn't have it in their scroll of headlines
CBS was scrolling through the politics page
The NYT which ran it as an exclusive did it on it's Europe page
EUROPE
Exclusive: Alleged Russian Agent Butina Met With U.S. Treasury, Fed Officials
Look at the headline, and tell me if you realize that is meetings with Obama administration officials?
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Media bias is in how stories are presented, and the weight they are given. Clearly every ap/reuters stories gets loaded into every news site's listings, but how/where it is run and how much screen time it gets plays a huge part in what I would describe as media bias.
Chico23231 07-23-2018, 10:22 PM Well let's see. The Reuters article was posted yesterday.
A quick Google search brings up:
Wall St. Journal has picked it up (https://www.wsj.com/articles/alleged-russian-agent-maria-butina-was-at-2015-meeting-with-top-fed-official-1532300577)
CNN has picked it up (https://www.cnn.com/2018/07/23/politics/maria-butina-treasury-officials/index.html)
CBS News has picked it up (https://www.cbsnews.com/news/report-accused-russian-spy-maria-butina-met-with-treasury-fed-reserve-officials-in-2015/)
New York Times ran it as an exclusive two days ago (https://www.nytimes.com/reuters/2018/07/22/world/europe/22reuters-usa-russia-butina-exclusive.html)
CNBC ran it yesterday (https://www.cnbc.com/2018/07/22/accused-russian-agent-butina-met-with-us-treasury-and-fed-officials.html)
And MSN (my main source) seems to be broken right now so I'll give them a pass, but I expect to see something on there about it when it comes back up.
When I searched her name and news...cbs showed it. Cnn had it on there politics side (somehow not a front page story). NYT, didn’t pull the article when I searched.
But, still...weird rueters finds the story and none until they did.
Hey mooby, any guess why CNN not running the shooters name from Toronto on the front page? I see they updated their story at 6 pm and promptly removed (buried it) in their world page. Not a peep of the most circulating story from the last 24 hours.
Muslim I guess? Doesn’t fit the narrative they wanted of crazy white guy mass shooter? Possible terrorist just shouldn’t be news...
Giantone 07-24-2018, 05:34 AM don't use a google search, go to each site's main page, then navigate to that story. Tell me how easy it is to find WITHOUT the search, in other words what the normal site goer might see.
CNN had it on their main page
WSJ had it on their politics page
msnbc didn't have it in their scroll of headlines
CBS was scrolling through the politics page
The NYT which ran it as an exclusive did it on it's Europe page
Look at the headline, and tell me if you realize that is meetings with Obama administration officials?
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Media bias is in how stories are presented, and the weight they are given. Clearly every ap/reuters stories gets loaded into every news site's listings, but how/where it is run and how much screen time it gets plays a huge part in what I would describe as media bias.
LOL, so use the internet but only the way I tell you to use it. Don't look now but guess who is trying to control the narrative.:doh:
Giantone 07-24-2018, 05:38 AM When I searched her name and news...cbs showed it. Cnn had it on there politics side (somehow not a front page story). NYT, didn’t pull the article when I searched.
But, still...weird rueters finds the story and none until they did.
Hey mooby, any guess why CNN not running the shooters name from Toronto on the front page? I see they updated their story at 6 pm and promptly removed (buried it) in their world page. Not a peep of the most circulating story from the last 24 hours.
Muslim I guess? Doesn’t fit the narrative they wanted of crazy white guy mass shooter? Possible terrorist just shouldn’t be news...
Yet , you don't know so your "assumption" is to fit your narrative.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ReRwtkQlXZ8
Chico23231 07-24-2018, 06:51 AM Yet , you don't know so your "assumption" is to fit your narrative.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ReRwtkQlXZ8
Not an assumption if NYT, Wa post, nbc news, etc chose not to run a story.
What’s the bigger story, a Russian spy at the national prayer breakfast or meeting with top obama adminstration officials?
Clearly biased and news sources which cannot be trusted to tell the American public the entire story.
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