Giantone
05-31-2017, 06:29 PM
WSJ said it...I haven't looked for that article. But I posted the LA Times one because the bias of the double standard was a good one. Obama does it, its smart diplomacy; Trump does it, its not.
I def don't trust any media because its become more tabloid and the speed of reporting matters more than factual reporting. Who can get it out first, facts be damn.
Now its become bias in the presentation of stories, where there is a clear over-hanging narrative which links everything. The most mainstream media is doing everything to smear the President. Its clear. This is new actually...we should be able to recognize it.
sidenote....You do know the Hillary Clinton campaign colluded with multiple elements in the liberal media against Bernie Sanders? You need to look at wikileaks...its interesting.
???So you admit to not trusting the media yet you will swear by "wikileaks"?Your accusations are more and more far fetch,like trump you are grasping at straws.
http://time.com/4625301/cia-russia-wikileaks-dnc-hacking/
TheMalcolmConnection
06-01-2017, 08:35 AM
For me, the bottom line, regardless of the details is why this administration seems willing to stake SO much on Russia while basically telling our allies to fuck off.
CRedskinsRule
06-02-2017, 12:35 PM
For me, the bottom line, regardless of the details is why this administration seems willing to stake SO much on Russia while basically telling our allies to fuck off.
I tend to think its because our allies had taken advantage of us and taken our presence for granted in many ways. And in order to get back to a mutually beneficial point you have to bring an outside force into the equation. Remember, the second Bush also didnt cowtow ro the extremely liberal agenda that dominates european politics. The administration has not broken ranks with Saudi Arabia Israel or other non-socialistic governments. Face it, a non liberal agenda isnt going to go over well in Europe ESPECIALLY when you start telling them they need to pay their portion in defense.
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Giantone
06-08-2017, 08:41 PM
Not a fan of FOX but this is right on the money!!
Fox News host criticizes Trump: Media is not the problem, 'it's you' - Business Insider (http://www.businessinsider.com/fox-news-criticizes-trump-twitter-rants-against-news-media-2017-6)
Chico23231
06-13-2017, 08:43 AM
Donald Trump just held the weirdest Cabinet meeting ever - CNNPolitics.com (http://www.cnn.com/2017/06/12/politics/donald-trump-cabinet-meeting/index.html)
this is the type of stuff that really is insane. who thinks this is a good idea to have a scripted, faux circle jerk like this? waste of time
mooby
06-13-2017, 10:54 AM
Donald Trump just held the weirdest Cabinet meeting ever - CNNPolitics.com (http://www.cnn.com/2017/06/12/politics/donald-trump-cabinet-meeting/index.html)
this is the type of stuff that really is insane. who thinks this is a good idea to have a scripted, faux circle jerk like this? waste of time
Be careful Chico, you're quoting CNN. Fake news!
Also here's a shot of Trump from his cabinet meeting:
https://s3media.247sports.com/Uploads/Assets/488/485/485488.jpg
Chico23231
06-14-2017, 01:15 PM
The political hate in this country has to end. We need to be able to express our difference in views and policy in a way where we listen first, listen second, **think** and respond. Today isn't about left vs right...dem vs rep...but a realization this has to end. Guilt is a two way street on both sides.
Social media and mainstream media has really stoked the flames of this political hate, we need to realize it. We shouldn't support media that has become more of an institution of sowing discord in order to profit. Trying to write narratives that divide the landscape of the country is wrong and simply false...and it a definite contributing factor in this violence.
Even though I may disagree with some folks like mooby and giantone, there is no way I dislike these guys.
And what happened today is not terrorism. this is rhetoric. I say this is a opportunity to say hey, lets step back a second.
mooby
06-14-2017, 01:19 PM
I also agree that violence doesn't solve anything, in fact in regards to today it's only going to make things worse. It would be nice if today was used as an opportunity to bridge the gap, but I'm sure people will use it as an opportunity to blame the other side for taking it to the extreme. It should never come to this, hopefully we aren't all lumped in together.
Chico23231
06-14-2017, 01:24 PM
I also agree that violence doesn't solve anything, in fact in regards to today it's only going to make things worse. It would be nice if today was used as an opportunity to bridge the gap, but I'm sure people will use it as an opportunity to blame the other side for taking it to the extreme. It should never come to this, hopefully we aren't all lumped in together.
agree. We need to say, how did we come to this? finger pointing isn't gonna work
Chico23231
06-14-2017, 04:40 PM
Paul Ryan: 'An attack on one of us is an attack on all of us' | Fox News (http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/06/14/paul-ryan-attack-on-one-us-is-attack-on-all-us.html)
Paul Ryan effing nails it.