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Chico23231 05-06-2016, 03:36 PM 5 concussions in the past 5 years. I think 4 have been documented, 1 highly suspected but not reported.
I love what Reed brings but 22 mil guaranteed is a big investment for his injury history.
I think one skill Reed learn which contributed highly to his "breakout" was how to properly protect his body. Knowing when to fight for extra yards, when to go down, when to go out of bounds, knowing when to put your head down, etc....this is part of that maturing process. I noticed he is playing smarter, more efficient. Hopefully the nagging injuries is behind the kid.
I think locking up Reed gets him at a cheaper price for now. Happy with the signing.
CRedskinsRule 05-06-2016, 03:44 PM Thank you Einstein
How did the Culliver, Hatcher, Roberts, contracts work out ?
They worked out like they should, they had an upside for the player if he performed, and an exit for the team if he didn't. In those three cases we took the exit, and our cap is still capable of picking up Norman when he came available.
I don't get when people think you can't write well constructed big contracts.
CRedskinsRule 05-06-2016, 03:46 PM 5 concussions in the past 5 years. I think 4 have been documented, 1 highly suspected but not reported.
I love what Reed brings but 22 mil guaranteed is a big investment for his injury history.
I am guessing that some or maybe even a lot of the guaranted money is roster bonus guarantees. But either way, we wanted to keep him on the team and they got it done. It's gotta be a good thing.
JoeRedskin 05-06-2016, 04:17 PM How did the Culliver, Hatcher, Roberts, contracts work out ?
They worked out like they should, they had an upside for the player if he performed, and an exit for the team if he didn't. In those three cases we took the exit, and our cap is still capable of picking up Norman when he came available.
Irrefutably refuted.
over the mountain 05-06-2016, 04:54 PM I am guessing that some or maybe even a lot of the guaranted money is roster bonus guarantees. But either way, we wanted to keep him on the team and they got it done. It's gotta be a good thing.
I like it the deal, I would have done it myself bc hes an amazing talent. to use a baseball term, he is +2 WAR imo. But I feel like this is uncharted waters. Long term deal w approx 50% guaranteed for a 25 year old guy with as many concussions as Wes Welker ... it scares me. His long term health and cap ramifications.
Safety wise, I actively worry about him during games like I did w RG3.
KI Skins Fan 05-06-2016, 05:49 PM They worked out like they should, they had an upside for the player if he performed, and an exit for the team if he didn't. In those three cases we took the exit, and our cap is still capable of picking up Norman when he came available.
I don't get when people think you can't write well constructed big contracts.
At this point, I'm perfectly comfortable with the way football-related matters are being handled at Redskins Park.
Skinzman 05-06-2016, 11:16 PM For the Bruce Allen haters, Jordan Reed is a BA guy.
Jordan Reed was drafted by Shanahan in his last draft here. Shanahan did the 2013 draft (when Reed was drafted), BA the 2014 draft, and McC did the 2015 and now 2016 draft.
JPPT1974 05-07-2016, 12:28 AM That is great. Congrats Jordan!
HailGreen28 05-07-2016, 11:04 PM that is a lot of money for a guy who misses 5 games a year. I want to see the details.. signing bonus, guaranteed moneyYeah, i like signing our own. Think Trent is worth it, not sure about the others.
ethat001 05-13-2016, 02:05 PM SBNATION - APRIL 3RD 2013 (http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2013/4/4/4181952/nfl-draft-2013-scouting-reports-tight-ends-zach-ertz-tyler-eifert-jordan-reed)
Jordan Reed, Florida
Now, if you follow the draft, you've surely heard of Reed. He's very commonly compared to Aaron Hernandez because they're similar in size, both hail from Connecticut and both are Florida Gators.
Reed collected 45 catches for 559 yards and 3 touchdowns in the 2012 season, and finished with a respectable 12.4 yards per reception. Possibly of note is that in his freshman season (2010) he played part time at the quarterback position, throwing for 252 yards and three touchdowns and rushing 77 times for 328 yards and 5 TD (4.3 ypc) in Florida's spread option offense. He made the switch to TE the next season as Charlie Weis took over, and while his numbers haven't been eye-popping, he obviously feels comfortable with the ball in his hands. He did lead the Gators in receiving this past season.
Combine measureables: 236 - 33.50" arms, 10" hands, 4.72 40, 1.63 10-yard split, 16 on bench.
Reed's combine numbers were disappointing. He came in sub-6'3, and ran north of 4.7 - two bench marks for 'move' tight ends that you'd typically look for. Nonetheless, I am still quite high on Reed's prospects in the pros, and he's one case for the thought that 'game-speed' and 'track-speed' are completely different things.
Reed's after the catch burst and power running the football makes you forget pretty quickly that he ran a 'slow' time in the 40. See below:
Reed demonstrates an ability to evade tacklers and his lateral juke move is impressive. The comparisons to Aaron Hernandez don't just end at the obvious - he even seems to move like the Patriots' star TE and demonstrates that open field spacial awareness that makes Hernandez so dangerous - he gets open, finds a soft spot, and can run after the catch. He has soft hands as well.
As you'll see, in-line blocking isn't necessarily Reed's strong suit. He can be relied upon at times to down block or even step out against a DE to help seal a lane, but he'll often lunge for a defender and get swiped away or miss altogether. He's not the type of tight end that you want lining up against a defensive end in pass protection one-on-one, so you have to use him intelligently within your scheme. If you're using him to protect your quarterback against an NFL speed rusher, you're missing the point.
The idea is, of course, to get the ball in his hands in space, and let him utilize his size and speed to become a matchup nightmare for opposing defensive coordinators. He's still raw and has only played the tight end position for two seasons.
I like Reed as a perfect example of the hybridization of players because he's a converted quarterback that looks like receiver, plays tight end, and runs like a running back.
The bottom line with Reed is that while he may not have the upside of an Aaron Hernandez, in the right system, a savvy coordinator can use him in a myriad of ways - a true joker. Line him up in-line if the defense counters with a nickel or dime look and let him block away from the play or downfield. Line him up in the slot against a linebacker. Line him up on the wing against a safety. His athleticism with the ball in his hands allows you use him as an outlet option or hot read against the blitz, or you can even use him on screens.
LINK TO STORY (http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2013/4/4/4181952/nfl-draft-2013-scouting-reports-tight-ends-zach-ertz-tyler-eifert-jordan-reed)
The above was a pre-draft profile of Jordan Reed, thought it was interesting -- and spot on. Crazy to think his combine numbers were a knock on his projections, 4.7 speed, but clearly those numbers haven't prevented him from being a top 3 TE in our league. Good pick Shanahan!
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