Cap Implications of Josh Norman

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CRedskinsRule
04-23-2016, 11:20 AM
Nice breakdown but looks like that 40+M cap room gets used fast

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Schneed10
04-23-2016, 11:43 AM
So in conclusion, we start with 43M in space. We shed the contracts of Culliver and Roberts, creating another 10.8M in space. Then all the resignings I listed total up to (59M).

So yes, it uses all that space to keep EVERYBODY.

But here's the reality, somebody will disappoint us this year. McCloughan will let somebody go because they got hurt or performance dropped or something. That's just basic portfolio theory.

And I'm not even counting other cap saving moves. I have Lichtensteiger on this roster. And Lauvao. And Paea. Could they be replaced over the course of two drafts?

My point here is that keeping our core studs is not a problem. If you were worried about keeping Galette, Reed, and Cousins, don't. The space is there. The rest are decisions, do you keep Jackson and Garçon or do you find other options? If you really want to keep them it can be done.

The space goes fast, for sure. But holes will also be filled as McCloughan drafts twice. So, you get your cake and eat it too, Norman does not mean we lose our studs. But this is probably our big free agent move for the next couple seasons. Over the next two years it's draft and resign our own, just how McCloughan likes it.

Schneed10
04-23-2016, 11:44 AM
I'm done, discuss away. I hope this was helpful.

CrazyCanuck
04-23-2016, 01:04 PM
Good stuff. :woot:

That Guy
04-23-2016, 01:42 PM
i think 8m in the first year for dj/jg/pg is probably a bit optimistic (well, maybe not pg). i know norman is getting that, but he's counting 20m/17m in the next two years. we'll still need mid level guys and a draft class next year, which eats up ~15m or so.

so technically you might be able to keep everyone and bump the bigger parts of their contracts into 2017/2018, but realistically, norman probably ends up costing us PG or galette (as well as culliver, but meh).

Schneed10
04-23-2016, 02:13 PM
i think 8m in the first year for dj/jg/pg is probably a bit optimistic (well, maybe not pg). i know norman is getting that, but he's counting 20m/17m in the next two years. we'll still need mid level guys and a draft class next year, which eats up ~15m or so.

so technically you might be able to keep everyone and bump the bigger parts of their contracts into 2017/2018, but realistically, norman probably ends up costing us PG or galette (as well as culliver, but meh).

Why optimistic? A deal worth $12M per year over four years would usually carry a cap hit of $8M in the first year.

Garcon definitely would not get that much. Jackson might.

But I should revise this once the team drafts next week, and makes a few moves on veterans. The landscape will change.

MTK
04-23-2016, 02:21 PM
Per Rich Tandler

$8 million cap hit for Norman this year. Means #Redskins have about $3.5 million. Will need to make moves but not immediately.

Schneed10
04-23-2016, 02:26 PM
Andre Roberts once healthy is probably the only move really needed.

But That Guy, Norman's cap hit in this first year is only $8M and he's got a $75M deal. If we want to keep Cousins, Reed, both WRs, Galette, and Baker, it is very doable. I was conservative in my estimates. I mean my assumptions here have Reed being franchised, which is as conservative as it gets. If they sign him to a long term deal the cap hit may only be $6M instead of $10M.

We're good.

CRedskinsRule
04-23-2016, 09:33 PM
We are good IF the team hits on their picks, builds the other areas through the draft and gets our guys signed before they can test the market. I like the signing but even by Schneed's numbers it is going to keep us out of big time FA plays next year. (That isn't necessarily a bad thing)

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Chico23231
04-23-2016, 09:48 PM
Good work here schneed.

The contract is large but as predicted its not gonna put us in a bad position for the future

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